An utter mess.
Match Thread Coventry City - Swansea City Match Thread - Saturday 21st Sep (2 Viewers)
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Brighton Sky Blue
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You can basically see this happening out on the pitch during games, never mind behind the scenes.
Evo1883
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Mate but Dennis was here then So I'm not sure where we are going ? The young centre halves are not up to it ?
clint van damme
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Good. Though the bollockless must have had a massive numerical advantage
eyesee
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GOOD!
too many players not doing their bit.
shmmeee
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Honestly: good.
Saddlebrains
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Agreed
All in all.its a clusterfuck from what I'm hearing and there's no one with a set of bollocks big enough to sort it
Be interesting when Doug catches wind. Last time he was informed of a player losing their rag and giving Robins / coaches a volley of abuse was when he heard O'hare did just that after being hooked at half time v Albion
He promptly informed Callum that the offer on the table was withdrawn and to go fuck himself
It took Robins to convince Doug to try again to keep Callum and go back with an offer
Keen to see who gets his wrath off the back of this
Brighton Sky Blue
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Maybe crossed wires here, I've not said Dennis Lawrence was the reason why we had a strong defence up until last season. What I think is the bigger reason was that for years MR built a tightly knit group of players and staff who were on the same wavelength, were drilled within an inch of their lives and would work their backsides off for the club.
With the new intake last season, that connection was lost and this season some players look lost out there. That's a recent phenomenon, and we're losing games to less expensive but better drilled sides as a result.
The midfield issues should have been addressed, it’s malpractice that we haven’t
clint van damme
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To be fair I've seen and heard several well known players talking about succesful dressing rooms they were in that were like war zones, but if its happening on the pitch then no one gives a fuck.
The problem is, we're a disaster on the pitch atcthe moment.
lord_garrincha
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We have eyes... when Jake Bidwell is the only player showing any attacking intent after the break shows what a shit show today was.
Agreed. We haven’t replaced the mental toughness of Fadz and Kelly
Brighton Sky Blue
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We had warning signs at this stage last season too mind you. The striking thing was the Cardiff game where MR openly talked about shyness in the dressing room, and Godden talked about the manager wanting us to play a particular style that was nothing like what we were seeing on the pitch.
That squad at least had McF and Godden as leadership figures, this squad has nobody bar Eccles who is looking under increasing strain trying to carry the midfield.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Evo1883
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I think this is the bigger problem , and let's face it there isn't many managers that wouldn't struggle a bit with so much change around him is there ? I think a bit of time and adjustments are needed, and maybe a bit of leway from doug with older players
lord_garrincha
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And with the greatest of respect to both of them, they were below champ level.
So is 'leadership' or 'bollocks' not an attribute recruitment look for... or is it a football manager simulation?
Evo1883
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Fadz definitely wasn't below championship level when he was playing
shmmeee
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I said in one of my rants that he needs an assistant in.
And let’s be positive here there’s no transfer window for coaching staff and they cost less than players. So it’s an easy and cheap fix. Ideally we’d have it on the pitch, but if Doug won’t spring for that, then he needs to find one or two coaches to come in and bang some heads together and provide leadership off it.
Kelly wasn’t either, he was in the team that took us to the playoff final
Saddlebrains
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This gets rubbished a lot on here but I can assure you you've hit the nail on the head.
Every international break regardless of the result, Kelly and Fadz made sure they all went for a meal and a few drinks. Each break, without fail.
Godden would arrange golf days, and to his credit O'Hare would always be game for being the one to help arrange shit
Notice the club released the vid last year of the 'team bonding' evening? It doesn't happen anymore. There is no 'you run through a brick wall for your team mate' mentality.
Whatever players like Kelly, Godden, Fadz were limited in with their play, they kept dressing rooms together, they were the link between the younger players and the management, they were the ones who would set the example
I cannot stress enough just how much we are missing that kind of mentality at the minute
Yep that’s way too sneaky saddle - let’s hear it
TomRad85
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I'd love to know which players think they have the right to call out others, because there aren't many! 90% of them have been fucking appalling so far.
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Evo1883
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So is the problem all at robins feet ? Because to me it sounds like a collection of problems that are all having an impact somewhere
SeaSeeEffCee
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We’ve had the same this season too. Eccles was saying pre-season that we were planning on playing exciting, front footed stuff this season. Hasn’t materialised at all and if anything we’re playing some of worst football since we’ve come up.
It just feels a little bit like the ‘Robins era’ is starting to crumble and we’re becoming one of those sides full of mediocre players who were bought for way too much, playing poor football and not getting results. The team spirit seems to have fallen off a cliff, as has the attitude within games. It is only 6 games in and it’s easy to catastrophise when you’re on a bad run and act like you’ll never win again, but god it’s just so depressing at the moment. I can’t remember a season I was more excited for than this one. Really thought we’d be up in the top six all season, playing well most week and it would be enjoyable to watch. No idea what’s happened to this team since pre-season, but hopefully we can turn it around.
lord_garrincha
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Maybe I am being harsh, but most of their careers were not in the old divs 2 & 1... emphasis is on the 2nd point.
Evo1883
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He played 3 full championship campaigns for us and was a gladiator the season we made the playoff final
He played 2 full championship campaigns for Burton and 1 for MK dons
SeaSeeEffCee
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Eccles is the only one that really comes to mind.
shmmeee
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Honestly I think the problem is sat in the directors box but you can’t get rid of him and maybe it’s best he lives or dies by all his own decisions.
lord_garrincha
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Again, I'm not picking on Fadz here...
TomRad85
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Eccles came out with some rubbish about 11 captains so I doubt it. 11 bellends more accurate.
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If Robin’s had control and authority this wouldn’t happen. All over the pitch they were arguing today from early on- Allen had a strop before going off ‘injured’. Wright clearly not interested and stropping hence his exit. What a mess. Needs a leader.