Sky Blue Pete
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Definitely with 15 to go
Match Thread Coventry City vs. MK Dons Match Thread - Saturday 11th Jan (7 Viewers)
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Maybe. But at Tranmere, we were a goal up and he gambled to try to kill the game off by bringing O'Hare and Baka on. It worked. Today, he made a similar move and O'Hare created two great chances and they were missed. Score one of those and we're praising the changes. Very easy to be wise after the event.
SlowerThanPlatt
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I reckon you could go through any league in the world and you’d struggle to find an 8 point gap between top and 12th
PL - 33 points
Championship - 16 points
L2 - 20 points
NL - 15 points
NL North - 20 points
NL South - 20 points
Evo1883
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That's what I mean, Alot of decent sides this season and quite a few who've bolstered their squads from last season including us...
I think with this very squad in the division last season we'd finish higher than 8th
clint van damme
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I believe we need a couple of additions if we're going to challenge.
Main priority a striker.
SlowerThanPlatt
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Do you not think it shows there’s not much difference between the best side and the 12th best side - which wouldn’t be a sign of a good league as in every other league the top side are much further ahead of 12th position?
BornSlippySkyBlue
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I mean a McCallum shot from outside the box.
Evo1883
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Not really, I believe for example the Premier league is not nearly as good as it was say 10/15 years ago hence why Liverpool are 20 wins from 21 games and miles ahead of 2nd and 3rd
SlowerThanPlatt
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Shouldn’t the top teams be much better than 12th?
Frostie
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A lot of overreaction, particularly behind me during the game!
Lots look at the table & are appalled we're not beating a team lower down but MK Dons have turned around massively under Russell Martin & deserve credit. They were in good form too coming in & played well. Reminded me a little of ourselves earlier in the season, lots of nice play but lacking up front.
We weren't at our best & definitely looked tired but still could/should have won the game if we'd taken our chances.
Lots look at the table & are appalled we're not beating a team lower down but MK Dons have turned around massively under Russell Martin & deserve credit. They were in good form too coming in & played well. Reminded me a little of ourselves earlier in the season, lots of nice play but lacking up front.
We weren't at our best & definitely looked tired but still could/should have won the game if we'd taken our chances.
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BornSlippySkyBlue
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Although of course arsenal went an entire season undefeated in 2003/4...
Evo1883
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Give or take some fluctuation I'd imagine it will be around 20/25 points between automatic and mid table come may
SlowerThanPlatt
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How about now? Don’t you think after 24 games there should be a clear class difference between top and 12th as there is in every other league?
Evo1883
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Evo1883
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Some teams will fall foul to injury and will also naturally fall to their level as the season wears on... Double that 8 now its 16 add some bad form etc it will end up around 20/25
SlowerThanPlatt
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I’m asking about now - every other league there’s far more than 8 points between top and 12th - also we’re over half way through the season
BornSlippySkyBlue
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I agree Liverpool are on fire this season. Arsenal weren’t such an attacking team though tbf, they were more content to get a draw than Liverpool this season. Maybe if they’d been more attacking they’d have got more wins. Maybe.
Don’t really follow the prem that much these days in all honesty, was just to point out that 15 years ago there were still teams that nobody could beat.
Evo1883
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True, and I've already said I think it's a far more competitive season but by May I think the difference will be around 20/25 points... That's 7/8 wins
SlowerThanPlatt
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It’s competitive because there’s a lot of average sides who are a much of a muchness and not because there’s a lot of good or very good ones
Evo1883
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You can be more competitive without being worse...
I watched Luton pompey Sunderland and Barnsley last season home and away and I didn't think they were all that much better than we are right now if at all
If a team is walking a league then surely the competition isn't there?
For arguments sake the difference between the Premier league and la liga top and midway is huge, la liga is 13 points only between top and mid way
SlowerThanPlatt
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No because as I’ve pointed out at this stage of season there should be a clear difference between the top team and the 12th best team, in every other league there is, in our league there isn’t.
Our 41 points this season would have us 8th last and 13 points off top - I’m aware we have a different team but then if this team would have competed with the top teams last season shouldn’t they be top of this league by some distance?
fellatio_Martinez
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Evo1883
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But I think we would have done better last season with this team...? It's a different league this season I'm not sure why you are drawing the comparison... We are 3 off top with a better team and that a reflection
Also why should their be a clear difference?
There is only a 4 win difference between top and halfway in the Spanish league and the German league too... That's not a big gap is it?
The gap between European football and 15th in the prem is 8 points
Liverpool are 16 points ahead of Leicester with a game in hand... The completion is weak, united are weaker, as a Chelsea and arsenal, as too are Tottenham
SlowerThanPlatt
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Do you think the top teams are stronger or weaker than last season in League 1?
Evo1883
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It's hard to say, I think this Coventry team is no weaker than what I saw of Luton last season? It's a different league?look at pompey they are doing much worse.
Liverpool and man City have the same starting 11 s nion as last season and yet there is a 17 point gap? Last season city were top... Its a different season
Using your logic pompey should be walking the league this season, they finished 6 points off top
BornSlippySkyBlue
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I’m not sure of this assertion that the league is there for the taking etc. In fact, it’s more competitive as there are many teams with similar ability. Still only three teams going up, so still need to finish in the top two (or win the playoffs) and more teams who could feasibly do it due to the closeness. If there was a 20 point gap down to 7th then you could safely write off 7th down from catching up. As it is lots of teams still have a chance, certainly of the playoffs. Competitive league doesn’t make it an easier league IMO.
SlowerThanPlatt
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You think we’re as good as Luton last year?
Evo1883
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I think the reason Luton did so well last year is that there were worse teams throughout the division.
Let me ask you if your opinion of the league being worse is true, then why are Portsmouth not pissing the league as they only finished 6 points off Luton... They have Alot of the same players?
And yes I don't think Luton would get anywhere near 94 points this season in league 1 with that team
sw88
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but surely there’s been a lot less shits going wide
I do miss it. in reality I feel like I’ve not seen much football at all of late
since stopping going away games and now being at st Andrews where I only attend Saturday games I feel like a part time fan sometimes!
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SlowerThanPlatt
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Luton doing well was not down to them being good but because there were weaker teams?
Evo1883
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Well it makes complete and utter sense and the same reason that pompey aren't walking the league this season despite having a similar team that pushed Luton at the top
SlowerThanPlatt
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No it doesn’t? We finished 8th one season in L1 then got relegated the next?
And they sold Clarke to Brighton and Lowe to Wigan did they not?