Welcome back Stuart.. You are a glutton for punishent. Do us a favour, will you please facilitate the meeting so that people have a fair say and we can hear replies. I'm skeptical about SISU's intentions and have a feeling this could be the last contact I have with anything Sky Blue for a few years unless we stay in Coventry. I need some kind of closure on this and want to walk away knowing that it was the right decision.
I'm not the only dissenter, I'm also pretty sure there are people far more articulate in putting their views across than me. However, as I say, this is last chance saloon. I need a new Coventry City owned by different people.
Never said it wasn't and to be honest if it were me and I might well do the same.
Question for pretty much everyone in this thread.
Am I the only person expecting some news to come out from the club tomorrow before the Fans Forum?
I'd say they didn't know "precisely", after all they thought the golden share was in Holdings!!
Question for pretty much everyone in this thread.
Am I the only person expecting some news to come out from the club tomorrow before the Fans Forum?
As I have said repeatedly, on air and here, Sisu as owners have made horrendous mistakes and TF has agreed with that. The current situation has, however, been contributed to by others and that is also well documented. As for Sisu's intentions, I have no idea if they would sell but I think anyone who dismisses their plans for "the long haul" may be making a big mistake. I have always said that, if they go away, if will not be quick and it will not be quietly.
And, remember, they still claim something similar to that - that the beneficial interest in the Golden Share is in Holdings. A topic people might want to ask about tomorrow perhaps.
Interesting question, I hadn't thought of that one!
As I have said repeatedly, on air and here, Sisu as owners have made horrendous mistakes and TF has agreed with that. The current situation has, however, been contributed to by others and that is also well documented. As for Sisu's intentions, I have no idea if they would sell but I think anyone who dismisses their plans for "the long haul" may be making a big mistake. I have always said that, if they go away, if will not be quick and it will not be quietly.
One of the key questions has to be that Sisu are reportedly one of the bidders for CCFC Ltd.
If so, why? This bearing in mind TF's assertion that CCFC Ltd is 'worthless.'
Are they bidding for CCFC Ltd and if so, why?
Stuart ,Have you changed your opinion that the weight of feeling against the Owners is somewhat more than ," A Little Mischief Making from a minority on A well known Forum"?
Do you consider yourself better informed of the situation now ,and "Do any of your colleagues in the Media come here" ? under pseudonyms maybe ?
As I have said repeatedly, on air and here, Sisu as owners have made horrendous mistakes and TF has agreed with that. The current situation has, however, been contributed to by others and that is also well documented. As for Sisu's intentions, I have no idea if they would sell but I think anyone who dismisses their plans for "the long haul" may be making a big mistake. I have always said that, if they go away, if will not be quick and it will not be quietly.
Hi Stuart,
Have you (or anyone else) seen the "presentation" yet? Is it all talk from Timmy, or is there some kind of powerpointy presentation that goes along with it? If so, as radio obviously doesn't do visuals, any chance CWR can get hold of this and put in on the CWR web site/news page somehow?
I assume it's because they want the golden share back?
Agree. I posted last night about the terms of building a new football ground.it states that not only does the relevant council have to agree the planning permission but more importantly the government have to agree.can you really see a company that is already 70 million pounds in debt.alienated the fans and will have hardly any income for the next 3 years be seriously considered by the government as being sound to build a new ground haven't members of parliment already raised questions about sisu's intentions.not looking good for them is it.?
One of the key questions has to be that Sisu are reportedly one of the bidders for CCFC Ltd.
If so, why? This bearing in mind TF's assertion that CCFC Ltd is 'worthless.'
Are they bidding for CCFC Ltd and if so, why?
I honestly have no idea about any of my media colleagues being on here. As for the fans view of the owners, there is obviously an anti-Sisu bias among those who make a noise (literally, at matches - & here); and when I say 'make a noise' I am not being critical. It's good to be passionate, but that passion often makes you think that everyone holds the same view and that anyone who doesn't is wrong. I continue to maintain that most fans among the wider support don't really care who owns the club as long as it does well. The fact it is not doing well means that the ''anti-Sisu' ranks have understandably grown, but equally it has caused massive apathy among the majority which is why we end up with 20,000 empty seats at home matches.
That is a point of view. However, a contrary argument is that the £70-million is owed to the club's owners & their investors who have provided that money so that the club can pay its bills, wages, taxes, etc...
I'm genuinely surprised that you think most fans aren't bothered who the owners are! I know you can't say that the view on here is the view of everyone, but I don't know ANYONE who will be willing to travel to home games next season. I had friends at the corporate presentation last night and there wasn't a single person there who said they would buy corporate seats if we weren't at the Ricoh. I think the swell of feeling against SISU is much, much bigger than you realise........
One of the key questions has to be that Sisu are reportedly one of the bidders for CCFC Ltd.
If so, why? This bearing in mind TF's assertion that CCFC Ltd is 'worthless.'
Are they bidding for CCFC Ltd and if so, why?
I think he has a fair point.
If we were doing well most people would be a lot less annoyed at whoever was owning the club I would say.
Do you not accept that SISU are still making horrendous mistakes ? The "others" you mention have not been charged with running the football club, that is down to SISU only. You must accept that it is much more than a noisy minority that are saying they will not travel to watch "home" games outside of Coventry.
Do you believe that SISU are the right people to be running a football club ?
Do you think that Tim Fisher's arrogant and patronising attitude towards supporters is the right way the CEO of a football club should talk to his "customers" ?
I'm genuinely surprised that you think most fans aren't bothered who the owners are! I know you can't say that the view on here is the view of everyone, but I don't know ANYONE who will be willing to travel to home games next season. I had friends at the corporate presentation last night and there wasn't a single person there who said they would buy corporate seats if we weren't at the Ricoh. I think the swell of feeling against SISU is much, much bigger than you realise........
The response to the Clubs own survey suggested 75% of respondents would not travel outside of Coventry to watch the team.
That is a point of view. However, a contrary argument is that the £70-million is owed to the club's owners & their investors who have provided that money so that the club can pay its bills, wages, taxes, etc...
I think there are two separate issues there. The issue of people's general attitude towards who owns the club which matters hugely to some, but not at all to others, and the issue of the 'away' home games which, quite understandably, many people object to.
Do you agree with the "not one penny more" campaign if the club remains in Coventry. Can you see any benefit this would bring?
The identity of the owners only dosen't matter if the club is being run on an even keel. When it's being ground into the dirt like it is I think it matters hugely.
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