Grendel
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Agreed. Also it could dissuade new owners as it sends out a message that underachievement has catastrophic implications on revenue.
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Agreed. Also it could dissuade new owners as it sends out a message that underachievement has catastrophic implications on revenue.
Even allowing for them clearing the debts they inherited? Was the rent being paid then, by the way, by the previous owners? It may have been, but I'm just asking.
Agree with you on the apathy of the fans, but those fans aren't coming to games any more anyway. If they alienate the 10k or so that ARE still coming to games then that leaves them with a home support of, well, nothing.
Oh and the point above about not one penny more, starving the club of income and hurting the owners is kind of the idea of it.
North York’s Blue
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There may well be a massive apathy but is it worth mentioning? We don't report on the 35% of people who didn't vote in the last general election, so is there any point in mentioning those that are not that bothered about the club?
Otis
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But a lot of that is down to the manager and players surely?
Who would have said Yeovil would have got promoted last season on a shoestring budget and hardly any household names in their team?
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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You could ask me. Or you could ask Timmy tomorrow. My view would be conjecture. That stated, recent form shows his might.....
Seriously, a breakdown if that value, or any claimed value had been requested many, many times over. Lets see it.
And let us not forget, we were claimed as being 'debt free' by Ranson directly after the take over; and again by Fisher last year.
If you do nothing else, I implore you to nail this one without any side-stepping
So yo think nopm will do more damage to the club than moving out of Coventry?
I'm sure having a decent manager and playing squad help yes Otis! But aren't Yeovil a pretty well run club? If they had all the problems off the field we have I doubt they would have got promotion. We must be the only team in England who end up with a transfer embargo EVERY SEASON. Fisher uses the escuse of administration this year, what's been his excuse for all the previous years? I don't think SISU have filed a single set of accounts on time yet!
Or empower them.
Not for 3 summers now .
shmmeee
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Hi Stuart (hope that's the right spelling!)
I'd really like any of the following asked and a direct answer pushed for:
1) At the London Supporters meeting you stated that we will not release the new kit until after CCFC Ltd exit admin. What is the reason for this and would a buyer other than Sisu change those plans?
2) If we are to ground-share while build a new home, considering ACL have public ally stated that try are willing to negotiate with you at any time, how is it possible that any deal with another club is still more beneficial than the club renting the Ricoh for that time? How would you know this if you haven't been negotiating with ACL since the decision to move was made public?
3) will you agree to a public discussion, chaired by the BBC (impartial) with ACL about the deal?
4) Would a positive outcome for Sisu in the judicial review open the door for further negotiations?
I will be attending the Forum on Monday but doubt ill get picked over the usual faces at BBC events.
sky blue john
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Why would Sisu be in a rush to get the transfer embargo lifted ?
The reason i say this is the last two football close seasons it hasn't bothered them !!!!
But you see it's not fair to say they are not bothered about the club. They are, but not enough of a mind to do or say anything, or hold a particular view of the owners.
All the details will be endlessly argued about, everybody has an opinion, but what cannot be disputed is that SISU have lost the trust of the vast majority of fans. I feel things have gone too far to retrieve this situation. maybe SISU don't care about enjoying the trust of their "customers", but if they remain owners, it will be an extremely bumpy ride.
Again, it's a question to be asked, of course, by anyone who wants to ask it. My understanding of the "debt free" perspective is that the only money owed is to the owners (in other words, to themselves). That is not to say that it is a debt that will not be discharged; it has to be dealt with, of course, but - so far as we know - apart from the rent to ACL, they don't have other debts.
sky blue john
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Has Ryton been sold ?
North York’s Blue
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Maybe 'bothered' was the wrong word, however we need to concentrate on those who do make their voices heard, whether pro or anti SISU.
To repeat my previous point, it is NOT a BBC event. It is a Coventry City FC event that BBC Coventry & Warwickshire is covering. If you are attending I hope you will get the chance to ask your question. As I understand it Monday's event will not be broadcast live for entirely pragmatic reasons that we have been unable to overcome. It will be reported on subsequently, however.
It's a common setup - injecting money as debts as opposed to equity.
It guards against hostile takeovers!
I think it did bother them last summer. Caused them to miss out on a couple of targets. Stephen Pressley has players in mind that he wants to sign and the danger, of course, is that they could go elsewhere.
At this moment, I honestly don't know.
If you are asking me, I haven't heard that. It would surprise me if it had, but then I am often surprised.
Id have thought mondays forum would be even more important. Wont all the bids be in by then.
im at work until 8 do you think it will get put on listen again?
Sky Blue Harry H
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Stuart - can you ask TF what his response would be to a breakaway CCFC 2 who played at the Ricoh - if SISU get back in and cling on like a leech. If not, what do you think to that possibility?
PUSB(2?)
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It is not a question of the radio station not wanting to broadcast it live, it is simply a question of logistics, with difficulties presented by the use of the venue by others earlier in the day which make it impossible for a live broadcast to be arranged.
I would have thought so.
Indeed Godiva ,IIRC Stuart was present at last years forum when TF remarked that the debt had indeed been converted to equity ,but equity of what?
James Smith
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Also true.
The Reverend Skyblue
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I would say that the damage in the relationship between the club and its fans that SISU have caused to this club is well beyond repair, whatever they do in the future. They are literally despised, by the thousands, and all the people I know who have gone to watch the team for decades, have all said they will stop and will not even contemplate ever going again until SISU go.
They have to understand this, its finished and all over, as it will save them money and stop them stuffing even more debt against the club by there completely ludricrous plans for a new stadium. These fans are already making plans to spend their Saturdays from August and will be lost to the club forever if they don't go now
They have to understand this, its finished and all over, as it will save them money and stop them stuffing even more debt against the club by there completely ludricrous plans for a new stadium. These fans are already making plans to spend their Saturdays from August and will be lost to the club forever if they don't go now
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Bluegloucester
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Stuart?............
sky blue john
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im expecting ccfc to be saddled with the debt of the new stadium but it will be in Sisu's or arvo's name and we will also be paying them rent.
How could this possibly be a better scenario than staying at the Ricoh ?
How could this possibly be a better scenario than staying at the Ricoh ?
I will not be asking questions, as such. They will come from the audience at the venue. As for my view of a CCFC2 at the Ricoh, I think it is highly unlikely. Any new club like that would have start way down the non-League divisions and, as such, would not attract attendances anywhere near big enough to make using the Ricoh a viable option.
Ask TF tomorrow.