MalcSB
Well-Known Member
And if that doesn’t happen? (A sale).
And if that doesn’t happen? (A sale).Change of ownership (sale) and agreement between new owners and wasps to play at the Ricoh
A change in owner ether at Wasps or Coventry.Serious question, what do you think needs to happen to facilitate a return to Coventry, given the current circumstances?
Can’t see any other wayAnd if that doesn’t happen? (A sale).
Always the possibility that the EU won’t find any fault with the sale of ACL to wasps.Can’t see any other way
Indeed?So how do we get wasps to back down?
That would mean we were in the same position as when KMPG were trying to find buyers. Once people found out stadium ownership wasn't an option the only people who were interested were SISU. What makes you think there would be better options this time round given the stadium situation is now worse?And then if somebody was really interested, the premier league Pot of gold would be only 1 promotion away
A bit of pressure from the trust and the media would be a start.So how do we get wasps to back down?
Perhaps some financial pressure, I don’t know - not providing wasps with any football related revenue perhaps?Indeed?
He’s right there too.He also said no other clubs should allow a ground share so we have to play at the Ricoh.
If no clubs agreed to a groundshare that doesn't equal playing at the Ricoh.He’s right there too.
Solihull Moors?Not necessarily no. We could try Nuneaton? Leicester? Sixfields again?
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DislikePromotion would mean we could easily survive outside of Coventry for another couple of seasons
Yeah that could work too!Solihull Moors?
Surely the crowds in Birmingham won’t be Mutch better maybe 8k. the Ricoh will double that and more for some gamesNo one really understands sisus end game though do they?
if they really believe they can win in court and also bring down Wasps they won’t sell will they?
I suspect gene backers on the other side of this argument are starting to panic. Promotion to a league with much greater media exposure will mean more scrutiny and negative publicity for wasps and the council and the probability of bigger crowds even away from Coventry than the Ricoh tenant
they know it’s going to allow Sisu to call more shots for a couple of years - it’s going to get worse on the PR side if the winning carries on
Not for me it won’t.Yeah that could work too!
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Really?Yeah that could work too!
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Me, personally, I'd park next door in JLR southworks car park. I dont know where you could park though.Really?
Where would you park?
Have you ever gone past there when they are playing all the grass verges parked on etc with crowds of what 1500..
Is SISU trying to distress Wasps. What is the difference between paying Brum and paying Wasps. If that can change then we should have no choice but to come back....unless SISU want to continue to shit on the fanbase...I know....some say the real fans are in Birmingham. But There are some who will not go until SISU go.Well it is and there is nothing anyone but wasps can do about it - last time it was always possible for the club to return at any time so of course that’s a huge difference
Unless wasps change their stance then we may not return for 6 years
I could park there too but what about all the other supporters.Me, personally, I'd park next door in JLR southworks car park. I dont know where you could park though.
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Do you realise what has actually gone on?Is SISU trying to distress Wasps. What is the difference between paying Brum and paying Wasps. If that can change then we should have no choice but to come back....unless SISU want to continue to shit on the fanbase...I know....some say the real fans are in Birmingham. But There are some who will not go until SISU go.
Don't necessarily think the owners hate each other. The Council hate SISU.A change in owner ether at Wasps or Coventry.
The owners hate each other that much dont believe ether would back down even getting what they wanted.
What a shit comment Nick, Read through again.
It’s about bridging the gap not walking in the opposite direction. Are you implying that it’s beyond that. I’d be happier if the club owners fuck off but until then I’d look for the slightest chance of being back at the Ricoh.
Well I suppose, alternatively we could return to the ricoh under w**ps terms and in a couple of years have no club to support and then we dont have to worry about where fans will park! Does that seem a better prospect to you?I could park there too but what about all the other supporters.
Think about it. Maybe you need toDo you realise what has actually gone on?
Leave it out.It's not a shit comment, I asked if you know what's gone on...
Outwardly, the only way back realistically is for Wasps to drop the demand to indemnify them if the council are found to be in the wrong.Don't necessarily think the owners hate each other. The Council hate SISU.
The coucil are pulling Wasps strings in the background,
- Wasps, "drop legals against us and we'll deal"
- SISU "legals dropped against you, there you go - signed to say so. (we're going after the council though)
Wasps - "No deal, didnt drop legals" (although not legals...complaint against CCC)
There's that, and Duggins getting involved from the outset in the media when the deal was up for re-newal.
WHY, should ANYBODY from CCC be getting involved in a deal between Wasps and CCFC??? - as I've said before, Council hiding behind Wasps......
-Wasps " ok, if you want to stay, sign up to an indemnity to pay out (10s of millions possibly) if CCC have done us (wasps) a dodgy deal"
SISU aren't going anywhere just yet.
If Wasps get a new owner (? - not even sure how that would happen - hedge fund owned too) the Council would still be in the background.
Don't necessarily think the owners hate each other. The Council hate SISU.
The coucil are pulling Wasps strings in the background,
- Wasps, "drop legals against us and we'll deal"
- SISU "legals dropped against you, there you go - signed to say so. (we're going after the council though)
Not what I was told by a bloke I was speaking to on New years eve.
Btw never knew him just got talking said he has had dealings with both and both detest each other did say that wasps owner hated Joy with a passion and she was a women scorned.
Said both club Directors got on really well but had their hands tied.
Still being silly? Look through my posts over the past 6 years...or delete them all if it helps.That's a no then
Is SISU trying to distress Wasps. What is the difference between paying Brum and paying Wasps. If that can change then we should have no choice but to come back....unless SISU want to continue to shit on the fanbase...I know....some say the real fans are in Birmingham. But There are some who will not go until SISU go.
How is it silly pointing out that you don't seem to understand?Still being silly? Look through my posts over the past 6 years...or delete them all if it helps.
The difference is that Brum aren't asking the club (not sisu, the actual football club) to foot any potential bill if it is found that something illegal went on with the sale of a ground.
Sisu aren't saints by any means but fuck me why can't people understand that if we agreed to the indemnity clause that wasps added at the last minute and the EU ruling went against the council, the football club would go bankrupt and out of existence due to the money that would have to be paid our due to the indemnity clause
They haven’t moved out of the city....And that is clearly the bit all parties
Yes. I’m actually pissed off with the whole thing. I get all the indemnity issue and that SISU are doing the business thing. SISU does not shy away from tough business decisions. It is a brave step to move the club out of the city again. All of the court stuff will play out and one day the club will be back where it belongs. I hope the fans will come back in strength. The managers and players are doing their boy on the pitch. One of SISUs problems is that they keep doing the unthinkable by taking the club out of the city.
The court case will dictate their next move.
sell up or run the club to the ground?
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