Captain Dart
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Maybe, but his prior track record scares me.
PS He could communicate better if he allowed the local rag into press conferences after all aren't SISU & CCFC different. :emoji_innocent:
I spoke to DB at length after the 'Evening with Mark Robins' he speaks very well and doesn't cover dress any issues.
Correct - like most other fans. Who banned the CT? Not the CT themselves. Spoke to lots of fans on Saturday who said the same thing..."has he been on holiday since he joined?". Still, obviously those of us who don't follow the official channels are numptys who should just shut up, clearly we're ignoring the club for the sake of a moan, in no way should any reasonable fan expect the club to communicate very visibly through non official channels.
Still, early days and he results seems good so I will shut up moaning for now. I would like to see him on CWR or the Cov Tel every other day though, even if just as a quote - that's the sort of drum-banging, front and centre CEO we need, not someone who expects fans to follow the club's official channels.
As a reasonably interested fan who checks CCFC websites every day, he shouldn't be invisible to me
"Shut up Oucho, he's been really visible, it's just you and everyone else you speak to who are beong stupid and ignorant."You said that you check the CCFC websites regularly every day but then say it's invisible?
Maybe then if he was on CWR you would try and deny it existing because you didn't tune in that day?
"Shut up Oucho, he's been really visible, it's just you and everyone else you speak to who are beong stupid and ignorant."
By definition, if me and others haven't heard a peep from him, he can't have been that visible, otherwise we would have done.
Maybe, but his prior track record scares me.
PS He could communicate better if he allowed the local rag into press conferences after all aren't SISU & CCFC different. :emoji_innocent:
I think, as someone pointed out earlier - putting Robins at the front and centre of all things, especially in and around match day is the main and right decision by Boddy and the club.
That'll do for me, common sense surely??
Personally I haven't heard a peep out of him since his appointment, but then again I don't follow absolutely every bit of communication from the club. That's the point - I shouldn't have to. As a reasonably interested fan who checks CCFC websites every day, he shouldn't be invisible to me - the club promised the new CEO would be a highly visible presence and for me, he hasn't been that so far. Still, if he's had any influence on our squad development and good start to the season, that must rank as a positive.
Why do you want him on the radio or in the CT every other day in the first place? What do you want him saying? Maybe that would help me understand it better.Correct - like most other fans. Who banned the CT? Not the CT themselves. Spoke to lots of fans on Saturday who said the same thing..."has he been on holiday since he joined?". Still, obviously those of us who don't follow the official channels are numptys who should just shut up, clearly we're ignoring the club for the sake of a moan, in no way should any reasonable fan expect the club to communicate very visibly through non official channels.
Still, early days and he results seems good so I will shut up moaning for now. I would like to see him on CWR or the Cov Tel every other day though, even if just as a quote - that's the sort of drum-banging, front and centre CEO we need, not someone who expects fans to follow the club's official channels.
Why do you want him on the radio or in the CT every other day in the first place? What do you want him saying? Maybe that would help me understand it better.
For most of our numpties it'd just be 'SISU spin', 'SISU propaganda', 'SISU just trying to cash in on a good start to the season', 'SISU getting desperate'. Anyway, it's staggering that you spoke to lots of fans, of which none happen to check the actual CCFC site but all care enough about our boardroom activities to want to moan about how invisible our new CEO is.
The club have got it bang on for me right now. I'm a CCFC fan and I have had more than enough of boardroom activities being played out through the press. Robins is the face and voice of it all with visible improvements popping up all over the place and a good product on the pitch, exactly as it should be.
Do you mean like getting involved with ticketing issues and commenting on shirt sales, mingling with fans are kit launch events? You have been given links to examples of thatI do think that the off-field leadership needs to be much more prominent. I want him to be a kind of cheerleader,s someone to bang the drum for the club, get his name out there and publicise what the club is doing through all these non-official channels. Start to re-build the local prominence of the club, almost take on a Mr Coventry persona of trying to build enthusiasm and speaking on behalf of the club even for minor matters. This sort of thing was implied in the published job description and the note that the club put out after relegation was confirmed. We don't need someone who will hide behind press releases or stick to official club channels - we want someone out there all the time, promoting the club. Basically doing a more active version of what Ray Ranson did on the PR side.
I don't bring any preconceptions to the bloke (some do) so I hope he makes a go of it. So far, to me, he has been far less visible then Anderson which isn't saying much.
Do you mean like getting involved with ticketing issues and commenting on shirt sales, mingling with fans are kit launch events? You have been given links to examples of that
Not to mention the corporate stuff that's publicised a lot more.
You keep saying invisible, it's as if you want him to come and visit you personally.
Not at all - it's part of the whole "not just active, but seen to be active" concept. I get most of my news through Cov Mad, SBT, CWR and Cov Telegraph, like a huge number of fans, and yet I haven't heard anything about these activities through those channels.
The point I am making is that he needs to use these channels or many supporters just like me won't hear about it. Just because he's doing these things doesn't make him visible - the whole point about PR is to get out there and bang the drum, not rely on people to follow you through your own channels. I haven't purposefully censored from my brain multiple news articles in which he's featured - I genuinely haven't seen a single one since his appointment. OK I don't read everything, but I shouldn't have to - if he's going to be prominent than fans like me will trip over him most days, but so far we haven't. Good for you if you have, but I can only speak for myself.
Not at all - it's part of the whole "not just active, but seen to be active" concept. I get most of my news through Cov Mad, SBT, CWR and Cov Telegraph, like a huge number of fans, and yet I haven't heard anything about these activities through those channels.
The point I am making is that he needs to use these channels or many supporters just like me won't hear about it. Just because he's doing these things doesn't make him visible - the whole point about PR is to get out there and bang the drum, not rely on people to follow you through your own channels. I haven't purposefully censored from my brain multiple news articles in which he's featured - I genuinely haven't seen a single one since his appointment. OK I don't read everything, but I shouldn't have to - if he's going to be prominent than fans like me will trip over him most days, but so far we haven't. Good for you if you have, but I can only speak for myself.
Or you can visit the official club website...
Cov Mad is run by a fan, SBT the same, CWR is local sport and radio, why would he be on there telling listeners about the latest advertising board offer? Cov Telegraph, there is currently no relationship with them... its like me moaning that I cant get my weekly food shop from my local pharmacy...
I think you've a pretty antiquated way of looking at it which is odd because I seem to recall you being a late 20 something. People following you through your own channels is exactly how social media works: Youtube, Facebook, Twitter etc. It doesn't get delivered to your doorstep anymore, you customise what you want to see instead. It's really fucking weird to say, I get my news through sites, which are all regurgitations, but I'm not checking the official website, oh no! - they need to come to me!Not at all - it's part of the whole "not just active, but seen to be active" concept. I get most of my news through Cov Mad, SBT, CWR and Cov Telegraph, like a huge number of fans, and yet I haven't heard anything about these activities through those channels.
The point I am making is that he needs to use these channels or many supporters just like me won't hear about it. Just because he's doing these things doesn't make him visible - the whole point about PR is to get out there and bang the drum, not rely on people to follow you through your own channels. I haven't purposefully censored from my brain multiple news articles in which he's featured - I genuinely haven't seen a single one since his appointment. OK I don't read everything, but I shouldn't have to - if he's going to be prominent than fans like me will trip over him most days, but so far we haven't. Good for you if you have, but I can only speak for myself.
Surely he is there when he needs to be? There is no point him being all over everything day in day out as it's pointless. I'd much rather him appear every so often and if there are issues with ticketing like at Grimsby, Ticketmaster tickets and shirts then he jumps on it and takes ownership and communicates it with the fans. Why on earth would people want over the top stuff just for the sake of it?
You keep going on about how you are different to other fans as you check websites multiple times daily. There have been posts on here about the things he is doing commercially and when he deals with things, I read on Cov Mad a statement he made about season tickets.
Boddy Apologises For Season Ticket Problems - Coventry MAD
You keep saying he is invisible and you haven't seen things, but more and more links are being posted showing it must be selective blindness. After all you ranted about him being invisible on Thursday and yet you still missed his statement on Friday.
Surely if you want news about CCFC you wouldn't check every site bar the official one anyway and would have a look on there?
I think you've a pretty antiquated way of looking at it which is odd because I seem to recall you being a late 20 something. People following you through your own channels is exactly how social media works: Youtube, Facebook, Twitter etc. It doesn't get delivered to your doorstep anymore, you customise what you want to see instead. It's really fucking weird to say, I get my news through sites, which are all regurgitations, but I'm not checking the official website, oh no! - they need to come to me!
Not at all - it's part of the whole "not just active, but seen to be active" concept. I get most of my news through Cov Mad, SBT, CWR and Cov Telegraph, like a huge number of fans, and yet I haven't heard anything about these activities through those channels.
The point I am making is that he needs to use these channels or many supporters just like me won't hear about it. Just because he's doing these things doesn't make him visible - the whole point about PR is to get out there and bang the drum, not rely on people to follow you through your own channels. I haven't purposefully censored from my brain multiple news articles in which he's featured - I genuinely haven't seen a single one since his appointment. OK I don't read everything, but I shouldn't have to - if he's going to be prominent than fans like me will trip over him most days, but so far we haven't. Good for you if you have, but I can only speak for myself.
I'm not being selective, I'm being honest. I genuinely only go on the offal only to check fixture news - just not in the habit of doing so, after so many years of barely anything being on there. I'm a bit confused why you won't let this rest - I'm giving you the honest perception of a fan who hasn't heard anything from the bloke since he was appointed. You can't argue with that, or you shouldn't . Why can't you just say "well that's how you see it, fair enough", rather than trying to prove me wrong? I'm just telling you my perception.
I didn't say he's "doing nothing", nor did I rant. I said I haven't seen him in the CCFC-related press anywhere - BECAUSE I HAVEN'T. You can post as many links as you like, if I didn't see them, I didn't see the them, which means he is being sufficiently visible to me as an interested fan who doesn't ready every bloody article or headline. There's no way round that. If I didn't know better I'd say you were defending him to the hilt on some sort of point of honour.
When I said "CCFC sites" I meant COv Mad, Cov Telegraph, etc. As in, sites that report CCFC news. I'm just not in the habit of going on the offal after years of drivel.If I didn't know better I'd say you had a bit of an agenda going on anyway....
I haven't said he is doing an amazing job, I haven't said he was a top bloke I have just said there has been an improvement with things. It may not last or it might.
You also moaned on Thursday about him being invisible, on Friday he made a statement about an issue and on Monday his statement was also published online. He isn't there to be a "Mr Coventry", he is there to get stuff sorted that's within his remit and take ownership of issues like Ticketmaster, not enough shirts in the shop etc where he can.
You don't read the official site, but you will read Covmad and the Telegraph who just get the news from there, re-word it and then post it anyway? Yes, I can post links with examples, the same as Wenger can see hundreds of replays of things where he says "he didn't see it".. For somebody who starts off by saying they are different to the average ccfc fan because they check ccfc sites multiple times a day, you miss a lot
If somebody is clued up enough to know the directors by name, would they really not even look at the official site?
Then I'd say it's your expectations that are misplaced.a
When I said "CCFC sites" I meant COv Mad, Cov Telegraph, etc. As in, sites that report CCFC news. I'm just not in the habit of going on the offal after years of drivel.
It's missing the point to accuse me of "missing stories" - as I have pointed out repeatedly, if he's sufficiently prominent I wouldn't have missed them. And actually he is meant to be a prominent, Mr Coventry type person according to what both Fisher and the club promised when they announced the new role of CEO - why not check, sure it was on the CCFC website!
I've already said I', happy to give the guy a chance, many fans have written him off already due to his previous stints at other clubs, but not me - I take as I find. However, it's fair to say he has kept a pretty low profile and that's not what I was expecting.
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When I said "CCFC sites" I meant COv Mad, Cov Telegraph, etc. As in, sites that report CCFC news. I'm just not in the habit of going on the offal after years of drivel.
It's missing the point to accuse me of "missing stories" - as I have pointed out repeatedly, if he's sufficiently prominent I wouldn't have missed them. And actually he is meant to be a prominent, Mr Coventry type person according to what both Fisher and the club promised when they announced the new role of CEO - why not check, sure it was on the CCFC website!
I've already said I', happy to give the guy a chance, many fans have written him off already due to his previous stints at other clubs, but not me - I take as I find. However, it's fair to say he has kept a pretty low profile and that's not what I was expecting.
So news sites that copy and paste from the official site and edit a few words aren't drivel but the official site is?
Really not too sure what you expect him to be doing, he probably could prance about saying "look at me" but what's the point? I'd much rather he got on with stuff and jumped on issues when needed like the ticketing ones.
You seem to be trying your hardest to get a moan out of it after saying somebody was "invisible" even though they made a statement the working day before the moan to address an issue fans were asking about. You keep going on about "Mr Coventry" and something the club has promised, but you don't check the official website to see? Funny that. It's that selective blindness coming back into play.
You had a whinge on Thursday about him, he made a statement on Friday. You then had another whinge on Monday about him being invisible, even though you check all of the CCFC sites (cov mad and the telegraph) and don't bother with the actual CCFC site. :emoji_thinking:
Just wanted to chip in that I didn’t even realise he was CEO and can’t remember hearing anything from him.
As you were.
In fairness, you aren't ranting about him being invisible by name etc. Plus you were probably stoned when it was announced
Exactly this. If the CEO of a business is in the news every day it generally means that business is totally up the swanny. Robins name should be on every bit of news that comes out of the club barring stuff that's totally out of his remit such as the ticketing issues. That's when you want your CEO to wade in and that seems to be the way it's working. I take the increase in sponsorship deals and so on as evidence of Boddy doing good work behind the scenes.Then I'd say it's your expectations that are misplaced.
As long as I see things happening, the less I hear from someone in that role the better in my view. Because if I do it means that something's gone wrong or they have to explain an initiative or they just like the publicity. And that applies to any company.
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