If they tear it up this season then they’re still leaving on a discount - they’re not signing new contracts with us, so it’s either sell them on the (relative) cheap or let them run out their contracts with us.
Bigger question is with our ‘big three’ only now decreasing in value unless they tear up trees due to contract lengths where do SiSU go next?
If they tear it up this season then they’re still leaving on a discount - they’re not signing new contracts with us, so it’s either sell them on the (relative) cheap or let them run out their contracts with us.
It won't be a good thing if we're doing it on a minimal budget. Trying to build virtually an entire squad on free transfers and out of contract players won't be easy.It'll be a good thing. Squad needs a shake up
It won't be a good thing if we're doing it on a minimal budget. Trying to build virtually an entire squad on free transfers and out of contract players won't be easy.
If they tear it up this season then they’re still leaving on a discount - they’re not signing new contracts with us, so it’s either sell them on the (relative) cheap or let them run out their contracts with us.
It seems most see keeping the big 3 as a good result. If we were staying true to our model then we should have been looking to sell one of Hamer, CoH or Vic early. Part goes to the club with the rest used to purchase 2 or 3 new permanent signings who continue the process. I know I'm probably on my own with this, but I wouldn't have minded if one went and MR had the chance to reinvest as that is a sustainable model. The fact we've not sold one has probably held our window back and we've been left selling Hyam to plug the finances. Ideally we'd keep them and add to them, but with our owners we have no money and need to be more savy. With so many games the squad can't revolve around just 3 players. We were lucky last season in relation to injuries to the 3. Already this season we've lost CoH long term, Hamer and Vic both look of the pace with rumours they are both not happy.
There is always January. Though that said, if we can get to the summer still in this league we’d be able essentially to build a new squad from scratch.
I would hope we'd have learnt from the likes of Waghorn. We should be able to pay for a few signings using parts of wages saved especially if from lower leagues as they will demand lower wages.It won't be a good thing if we're doing it on a minimal budget. Trying to build virtually an entire squad on free transfers and out of contract players won't be easy.
Yeah this is what people are seemingly forgetting. Building an entire new squad will be an incredibly challenging and expensive ordeal, and there's still the matter of operational costs to cover and the EFL loan to consider.
Just from rough calculations, even those you have as released frees up around 55-60k a week so around 3m a year. So important we get recruitment right next summer. But most importantly stay up firstNot sure. Talking a fair way into the future in this scenario you sell
Gyo
Hamer
O’Hare
Sheaf (perhaps)
You release
Wilson
Moore (perhaps)
McF
Kelly
Hilssner
DaCosta
Kane
Waghorn
Walker
All the loan players also go back, leaving
Moore (perhaps)
Dabo
Rose
Bidwell
Eccles
Sheaf (perhaps)
Palmer
Allen
Godden
Tavares
plus any other prospects who break through this season as first team squad players.
It’s quite a lot of wages freed up and a good amount of transfer revenue brought in at once which could offset slightly reduced fees given their contracts. Then recruit hard on lower league or foreign prospects, sprinkled with a few decent loans. I’m not saying that’s easy but it’s what we’d need to do anyway to develop players for the next big sales.
Having to build a squad from scratch is hardly a desirable place to be. I shudder to think how we’ll handle that.
And yes we could always sell in January - but by then we may not be able to afford to sell (because we’re in a dogfight) or to buy (because replacements will be costly).
We had the time and opportunity to be calculated this summer - to keep most of the squad together, to make a big sale and kickstart another rebuild. We don’t have that anymore.
That was all set to happen before someone tore his hamstring on the eve of the season.
Agreed. Vik is far more effective with Ohares energy and creativity around him. Even Ohares runs off the ball create far more space for VikYeah, true - oh well.
Although I have to say, going only by the small sample size so far, I much prefer watching us with O’Hare and no Gyokeres, rather than the current opposite version.
Yeah, true - oh well.
Although I have to say, going only by the small sample size so far, I much prefer watching us with O’Hare and no Gyokeres, rather than the current opposite version.
Not sure. Talking a fair way into the future in this scenario you sell
Gyo
Hamer
O’Hare
Sheaf (perhaps)
You release
Wilson
Moore (perhaps)
McF
Kelly
Hilssner
DaCosta
Kane
Waghorn
Walker
All the loan players also go back, leaving
Moore (perhaps)
Dabo
Rose
Bidwell
Eccles
Sheaf (perhaps)
Palmer
Allen
Godden
Tavares
plus any other prospects who break through this season as first team squad players.
It’s quite a lot of wages freed up and a good amount of transfer revenue brought in at once which could offset slightly reduced fees given their contracts. Then recruit hard on lower league or foreign prospects, sprinkled with a few decent loans. I’m not saying that’s easy but it’s what we’d need to do anyway to develop players for the next big sales.
We should revert to 1 up front. Need to control games in the midfield again. I don't know the stats but I expect our possession overall has been down.Gyo and Godden isn’t a winning combination. Though come to think of it most of our team selections aren’t winning combinations over the last 40 odd games
Not sure. Talking a fair way into the future in this scenario you sell
Gyo
Hamer
O’Hare
Sheaf (perhaps)
You release
Wilson
Moore (perhaps)
McF
Kelly
Hilssner
DaCosta
Kane
Waghorn
Walker
All the loan players also go back, leaving
Moore (perhaps)
Dabo
Rose
Bidwell
Eccles
Sheaf (perhaps)
Palmer
Allen
Godden
Tavares
plus any other prospects who break through this season as first team squad players.
It’s quite a lot of wages freed up and a good amount of transfer revenue brought in at once which could offset slightly reduced fees given their contracts. Then recruit hard on lower league or foreign prospects, sprinkled with a few decent loans. I’m not saying that’s easy but it’s what we’d need to do anyway to develop players for the next big sales.
Foreign prospects will be difficult with the work permit rules
They won't be if they're hired from the right leagues. We are in the championship now, we don't need to be recruiting players from the German 3rd division.
If the window has shown anything we are going to struggle to get players from the top leagues anywhere
We should revert to 1 up front. Need to control games in the midfield again. I don't know the stats but I expect our possession overall has been down.
Todd Kane is someone we might as well use now
Champions League in 2 years I reckon
YesCan we sign and play unattached players now the window is closed ?
It doesn't mean he's forced out of the club.
Players get sold.
He only had to say "No"
YesCan we sign and play unattached players now the window is closed ?
This is spot on. Was at Fulham away towards the end of the season . We outplayed, out thought, and out bullied them. I was full of optimism after that game. Record season ticket sales going into this one ...who knew what was about to happen. I can just about handle the pitch debacle and the O'Hare injury but the Owners lack of ambition is the killer blow here .It's a shame that we're already talking about a rebuild when the team we had last season could have been playoff material with a bit of investment.
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