Match Thread Derby County - Coventry City Match Thread - Tuesday 11th Mar (99 Viewers)

torchomatic

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Bit unfair on Wright, I think.

The guy has just come back from injury and is clearly lacking sharpness. Very hard to just come back in after weeks out and be immediately match fit.

I'm sure we'll see Wright back at his best very soon. Hopefully, on Saturday, we will see something approaching the Wright we remember.

Totally agree, Otis.

He touch was poor, lost the ball easily and was frustrating to watch, but he's been out for 16 weeks. Need to cut him a little slack.
 

TomRad85

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I thought a few people would have a meltdown when we finally lost a game but didn't expect this many.

From the reactions you would think it was Derby who had nearly 70% of the possession and it was us that only had 2 shots on target. I agree we didn't play well but it's difficult against 10 players in the box defending and playing on the break with speed.

Let's try to remember that most of our best players are either injured or coming back from injury. We're playing with a makeshift side trying to get fitness into players. We're in a much better position than most thought possible. We have 3 difficult games coming up but 2 are at home. Sunderland won't be coming here to put all 11 players in the box. Burnley got a player and their manager sent off last night.
It's just venting for the most part, I'd hope most understand it's just one of those drab midweek games against poor opposition that pulled us down to their level, that can happen. Hopeless officials didn't help either.
I don't understand posts basically saying we're not good enough. Do people understand how bad everyone from West Brom downwards has to have been for us to even catch them from where we were in the first place?!
Big performance against Sunderland needed now, I'm hopeful although I think we miss Rudoni a lot.
 

Viktor17

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Totally agree, Otis.

He touch was poor, lost the ball easily and was frustrating to watch, but he's been out for 16 weeks. Need to cut him a little slack.
That’s fine re the parts of his game. BUT you don’t have to be match fit to show intent, want, work rate, willingness to throw yourself into work.

Plan should have been just work hard for 45/60mins then we can bring you off.
How he stayed on, ambling about and sticking his leg out for 90mins, is frankly mind blowing.
 

Perennial Lurker

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It's just venting for the most part, I'd hope most understand it's just one of those drab midweek games against poor opposition that pulled us down to their level, that can happen. Hopeless officials didn't help either.
I don't understand posts basically saying we're not good enough. Do people understand how bad everyone from West Brom downwards has to have been for us to even catch them from where we were in the first place?!
Big performance against Sunderland needed now, I'm hopeful although I think we miss Rudoni a lot.
It was a hugely frustrating watch but our run was always going to come to an end . I personally felt it would be Sunderland or Burnley that ended it and not Derby but they are fighting for their lives and that was the difference last night
 

torchomatic

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That’s fine re the parts of his game. BUT you don’t have to be match fit to show intent, want, work rate, willingness to throw yourself into work.

Plan should have been just work hard for 45/60mins then we can bring you off.
How he stayed on, ambling about and sticking his leg out for 90mins, is frankly mind blowing.

Totally agree with that. Thing is Lampard should see it. Should have taken him off after an hour. No way he was up to a full game.
 

torchomatic

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They can fuck off with the annoying, "The Rams are staying up" song too.

No, you're not.
 

Covskyblue

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If you were being naughty you might suggest it's a little dig at Sheaf...
That’s a really good point, I hadn’t realise at the time of posting.

I was more thinking it explains Eccles lack of minutes and form over the last month or so. I thought he played well first half and was much improved.

This season as a whole he has offered so much more than Sheaf, arguably our player of the season before the Lampard tenure started (granted, a low bar). He’s improved year on year for us and is very good option to have in the squad, still only 24.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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It was a hugely frustrating watch but our run was always going to come to an end . I personally felt it would be Sunderland or Burnley that ended it and not Derby but they are fighting for their lives and that was the difference last night

Players need to treat each game as a cup game if they’re not going to match the fight of the opposition. Maybe this was a good thing to give them a dose of reality and go again.
 

Viktor17

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That’s a really good point, I hadn’t realise at the time of posting.

I was more thinking it explains Eccles lack of minutes and form over the last month or so. I thought he played well first half and was much improved.

This season as a whole he has offered so much more than Sheaf, arguably our player of the season before the Lampard tenure started (granted, a low bar). He’s improved year on year for us and is very good option to have in the squad, still only 24.
What did Lampard say? I’ve missed these comments?
 

mmttww

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How does a switch to 3 x CBs prevent either goal last night? First one, Bidwell makes a dumb challenge and Haji plays their bloke onside from the free kick. Second goal is Thomas ball watching, loses Harness. I don't want us to overreact to a bad day at the office.
 

torchomatic

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Players need to treat each game as a cup game if they’re not going to match the fight of the opposition. Maybe this was a good thing to give them a dose of reality and go again.

Nine wins in eleven still sounds great. Forget this game now and move on to a tough challenge on Saturday.

Still think it'll be us and WBA in the play offs. We're better than Bristol City and Middlesbrough.
 
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jas365

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We always knew there would be a big reaction when we lost a game, and if we're honest we've ridden our luck a little bit over the last few games, but the main thing now is not to over react too much, I still think we have a great chance of beating Sunderland on Saturday, then we have 2 weeks for players to recover and hopefully get Rudoni back in.

Just on Wright - yes he was bloody shocking last night, but it's clear he needs more time, and there is no way he would've started last night if EMC didn't have the issue with his toe. I would expect him to be starting on Saturday and Wright to be back on the bench.

The conundrum for FL is whether to now revert to a back 5, there is no question we look more solid defensively, but he clearly prefers 4-3-3, he has a big decision to make on this, particularly when it comes to the game at Bramall Lane.
 

TomRad85

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Nine wins in eleven still sounds great. Forget this game now and moce on to a tough challenge on Saturday.

Still think it'll be us and WBA in the play offs. We're better than Bristol City and Middlesbrough.
Agreed, Boro look a very poor team atm. I wish Bristol would just fuck off, like a turd nugget that won't shake off.
 

torchomatic

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"What's it like to see a crowd?" ....... not the brightest bunch are they?
Ha. Yeah, that was a good one.
 

Bad Boy

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We had to lose at some point but to do it against a poor derby side with Sunderland, sheff Utd and Burnley coming up makes it a bit worrying, it’s either wheels come off or gives us the gentle reminder we have to be on it for every game, can’t afford anymore performances like that,
Have a fag someone will be along in a day or two to collect you and your bike.
 

Covskyblue

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What did Lampard say? I’ve missed these comments?
On CWR pre game he said Eccles had been playing with / managing and injury for some time he’s a good player, offers lots, knows when to press etc.

The post game he mentions Sheaf’s injury.

Ben has had a little bit of an issue,” he said. “It isn’t the issue he had before but a different issue that ruled him out today. I won’t go into the details of it but hopefully he’ll be back very soon. We’ll see for the weekend.”
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Blimey 2nd loss in 11 and people panicking we must change formation

I do wonder if you guys ever enjoy supporting cov or watching football?

I understand the reaction to the performance, because it was shocking. I don't understand the panic or claims that we're playing with a particularly weakened team and will bomb out the playoffs.

Yes, it was a total shitshow yesterday and some players looked like they won charity awards to take part, but it's one game. Plenty of time to put it right, and as Brighton said, find a way win at the weekend and it will all be forgotten about.
 

pusbccfc

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Totally agree, Otis.

He touch was poor, lost the ball easily and was frustrating to watch, but he's been out for 16 weeks. Need to cut him a little slack.

Haji has always been like this. A bit like Simms, they have a lot of limitations.

However, on his day, Haji can bully full backs. He needs open and expansive games like we saw against Wolves and United.

Haji against a low block can really struggle. In general, we struggle to break down low blocks. We saw it at Cardiff and even Pompey after they scored their 4th. I worry that teams will look at last night and recognise that weakness.
 

covcity4life

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In fairness alot of the good form came with another formation too but the reality is we conceded less .

I'm not fussed either way but I think its a fair shout
We won with 433 too. I don't mind people raising it as a possibility it's just the panic and assumption that 352 is a change that simply must be made asap
 

jto123

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Didn’t particularly like when FL said after the game that we haven’t been conceding many goals like we did against Derby. I disagree. Defence still looks a major issue and has for ages. Would hope he’s looking to work on its leakiness.
 

torchomatic

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He needs to play a couple in the u21s then.

Fuck knows why we don't bother in general to help get players a bit closwr to match fit

In the "old" days that what the Central League (reserve team) was for. You'd see quite a few big name players playing in the reserves at HR getting back to fitness. We've done it before. Remember seeing Hamer at the Higgs after his four match ban.
 

torchomatic

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didn’t want to go into detail about it which probably explains Saddles comment how he’s a petal…

To be fair, those Sunday newspapers can get a little weighty. Pick one of those up the wrong way and - boom! - there goes the hamstring.
 

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