Match Thread Derby County (H) (8 Viewers)

[Johnnythespider]

Two points I'd like to make, i think Richards handles the ball infront of him for their goal and Waghorn and 1 other is my preferred front 2, he makes the space for others to shine.
Edit - i meant when they hit the post

 

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[SkyblueDad]

But what from when Gustavo strikes the ball, it comes back off the bar.

Was godden offside?

I haven’t seen the Hamer free-kick that hit the bar again but if Godden was in an offside position when it was taken under current rules he is off once he touches the ball

 

[wingy]

Sorry, some if the criticism of Sheaf is valid but anyone who can't see how much bringing Kelly on affected us need to have a word.

Wrong sub from Robins.

It's difficult to gauge when the hyperbole starts after scoring at Blackburn, well the goalie.
But that makes him undroppable even though he's barely played, is senior in age etc and just might struggle for legs m

 

[Sick Boy]

Godden missed out cause he was banned and got a hat Rick in the u23 fixture. I think it was fine for him to play. Like I said before Walker got 25 mins. That’s when you say don’t bench me again by getting the winner

He got himself banned for diving - it was up to him to earn his place again.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

He got himself banned for driving - it was up to him to earn his place again.

Speeding?

 

[The Philosopher]

People keep bleating about Walker leaving in Jan- we’d cope with that, Gyo leaves and that’s one huge gaping hole to fill

I’d understand the common sense of letting Walker / Waghorn or both go if it made space in the payroll for another no9.

Look, If Godden is out and we don’t have Waghorn or Walker we could still call on Tavares, call back Bapaga, play 1 up with two AM’s running off. Bright might get divine intervention- who knows. Anyway, we could survive without W&W.

As soon as Gyok goes off we’ve got zeri no.9 in the squad, none in the u23s.

It’s a madness.

Get another no.9 in. Many say Biamou wasn’t quite good enough. Ok. No argument here - but to have no back up for Gyok or even one in the development set up is crazy.

I listened to that podcast with Chay Thompson a bit back.

Mark & Ady want the club to play the same way from 1st team through u23 through youth.

HTF can we do that without any recognised no.9 anywhere in the set up besides GYOK?

As I say. It’s a madness.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He got himself banned for driving - it was up to him to earn his place again.

He did

 

[wingy]

It's rare to lose the shirt after you've just scored across two games but it's happened.
Gaffers call.

 

[COV]

He got himself banned for driving - it was up to him to earn his place again.

He won a penalty and scored a penalty? He also has more goals, more assists this season and contributes more

 

[Johnnythespider]

After the disallowed goal a Cov fan skipped the segregation and went over to the Derby fans.

They were decent tbf, got behind their team when behind

They didn't make a sound until they scored

 

[COV]

I’d understand the common sense of letting Walker / Waghorn or both go if it made space in the payroll for another no9.

Look, If Godden is out and we don’t have Waghorn or Walker we could still call on Tavares, call back Bapaga, play 1 up with two AM’s running off. Bright might get divine intervention- who knows. Anyway, we could survive without W&W.

As soon as Gyok goes off we’ve got zeri no.9 in the squad, none in the u23s.

It’s a madness.

Get another no.9 in. Many say Biamou wasn’t quite good enough. Ok. No argument here - but to have no back up for Gyok or even one in the development set up is crazy.

I listened to that podcast with Chay Thompson a bit back.

Mark & Ady want the club to play the same way from 1st team through u23 through youth.

HTF can we do that without any recognised no.9 anywhere in the set up besides GYOK?

As I say. It’s a madness.

I’d say the answer is simple unfortunately.. £££

 

[The Philosopher]

He got himself banned for driving - it was up to him to earn his place again.

Banned for driving? FML.

 

[wingy]

I’d understand the common sense of letting Walker / Waghorn or both go if it made space in the payroll for another no9.

Look, If Godden is out and we don’t have Waghorn or Walker we could still call on Tavares, call back Bapaga, play 1 up with two AM’s running off. Bright might get divine intervention- who knows. Anyway, we could survive without W&W.

As soon as Gyok goes off we’ve got zeri no.9 in the squad, none in the u23s.

It’s a madness.

Get another no.9 in. Many say Biamou wasn’t quite good enough. Ok. No argument here - but to have no back up for Gyok or even one in the development set up is crazy.

I listened to that podcast with Chay Thompson a bit back.

Mark & Ady want the club to play the same way from 1st team through u23 through youth.

HTF can we do that without any recognised no.9 anywhere in the set up besides GYOK?

As I say. It’s a madness.

But we'd change style / shape.
We have a couple of times last two to three seasons, well I think we have?

 

[Liquid Gold]

I’d say the answer is simple unfortunately.. £££

We’ve got 4 first team strikers.

£££ is not the simple answer.

 

[wingy]

They didn't make a sound until they scored

Well you know what I thought the trolling about relegation might just motivate them and more importantly their team,if such things happen.

 

[Nick]

Nick and grendel will say we sat back. Liked the proactive changes but we missed sheaf to drive us forward. Walker could have had a dig last minute

Fair result - second penalty could easily have been given

Ok Pete, we didn't sit back and the changes were amazing.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Ok Pete, we didn't sit back and the changes were amazing.

Changes weren’t amazing but they should have freshened it up they didn’t.

 

[Perryccfc]

I agree with people not happy about Gyo going off, it was the type of game where we needed the ball to stick and someone to run the channels. I do like Walker but he doesn’t do either, he’s a very good finisher but for me his all round game is way off. Doesn’t work hard enough.

I thought the Sheaf for Kelly change was the right move, we started to lose control and Sheaf doesn’t break the play up enough.

Unfortunately it just wasn’t to be, but nobody can say we didn’t deserve to win, we dominated the vast majority of that game and were unfortunate not to be 2 or 3 up by the time Derby started to play.

 

[wingy]

It's a no win really.
Make changes, make them early something he was reluctant to do a season or so ago, but got into more last season.
Maybe as we were allowed five.
It seems odd how we start to look second halves needing to think around it at 60ish minutes.
Traditionally they used to come around 70-80.

 

[Johhny Blue]

Fair result, can't argue with that point really. Both teams could have won it.

I don’t think that’s possible

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's a no win really.
Make changes, make them early something he was reluctant to do a season or so ago, but got into more last season.
Maybe as we were allowed five.
It seems odd how we start to look second halves needing to think around it at 60ish minutes.
Traditionally they used to come around 70-80.

The shape needed changing more than the personnel, same on Wednesday.

 

[The Philosopher]

I agree with people not happy about Gyo going off, it was the type of game where we needed the ball to stick and someone to run the channels. I do like Walker but he doesn’t do either, he’s a very good finisher but for me his all round game is way off. Doesn’t work hard enough.

I thought the Sheaf for Kelly change was the right move, we started to lose control and Sheaf doesn’t break the play up enough.

Unfortunately it just wasn’t to be, but nobody can say we didn’t deserve to win, we dominated the vast majority of that game and were unfortunate not to be 2 or 3 up by the time Derby started to play.

That’s how I see it too.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Biggest crowd of the season, worst atmosphere of the season. Ref was nuts. Derby have clearly improved but we should be able to get closer to them than we did in the second half. We made them look like Brazil at times.

 

[Moff]

Really disappointing result and overall the worst home performance of the season.

Kelly is no longer a positive influence on this team. Demonstrated in injury time there where his first instinct is to go backwards. He was miles off the pace.

Hyam too has been culpable for the last 3 goals we've conceded and should be dropped.

Exactly like Wednesday night we dropped to a back 5 and struggled to get out, the worst player to bring on in that situation is Liam Kelly.

Pretty much agree with that.

Hyam’s mistake was very poor considering he wasn’t under a great deal of pressure. I didn’t think aside from that he was too bad, but in this league you can’t keep making these costly mistakes.

Kelly offered little when he came on, it was if we went backwards. Walker and Godden added to this as neither seemed to give an outlet

 

[Skybluefaz]

Pretty much agree with that.

Hyam’s mistake was very poor considering he wasn’t under a great deal of pressure. I didn’t think aside from that he was too bad, but in this league you can’t keep making these costly mistakes.

Kelly offered little when he came on, it was if we went backwards. Walker and Godden added to this as neither seemed to give an outlet

No idea why Walker doesn't put his foot through the ball near the end rather than trying to tee up an offside Godden.

 

[Johnnythespider]

The shape needed changing more than the personnel, same on Wednesday.

Allen ?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Allen ?

I’d have gone for a box, take off Gyo or Godden for Allen, Dabo for Kane. Keep Sheaf on the pitch as he was playing fairly well.

 

[Tommo1993]

If anything, this angle just confirms that it was offside

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yep just offside

 

[Skybluefaz]

If anything, this angle just confirms that it was offside

Never trust anyone that uses 'his' instead of 'he's'.

 

[Mcbean]

If anything, this angle just confirms that it was offside

FA should announce that we have been given the goal - along with demoting the linesman and referee to League 2

 

[Johnnythespider]

I’d have gone for a box, take off Gyo or Godden for Allen, Dabo for Kane. Keep Sheaf on the pitch as he was playing fairly well.

We're a more fluid attacking force with Allen in the side, he seems to be the one paying for the Luton result, i don't mind Sheaf if it's a him or Kelly choice but i do think he slows us down, that's not always a bad thing but we got sucked into hitting it long in the second half and then took Victor off when it probably should have been Godden.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

If anything, this angle just confirms that it was offside

Should still have had a second penalty.

 

[Moff]

No idea why Walker doesn't put his foot through the ball near the end rather than trying to tee up an offside Godden.

Especially considering he’d just scored 2 in 2, why didn’t he just have a go?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Especially considering he’d just scored 2 in 2, why didn’t he just have a go?

He was annoyed at not starting