Brighton Sky Blue
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So what he could have put that ball anywhere
By what measure? Not by goals scored
You could say the same about Bristol City, Watford Brentford etc etcIf derby hadn't scored we would won
We scored most of our goals over a 3 game spell
All the ones the bookies use. Our xG is toilet.By what measure? Not by goals scored
Post them here, not seen anythingAll the ones the bookies use. Our xG is toilet.
This websitePost them here, not seen anything
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Championship xG (Expected Goals) (England) | FootyStats
Expected Goals data for the England Championship - including xG, xG Against (Conceded), and xG at home and away. Stats use advanced xG modelling for the Championship.footystats.org
We've already got the worst attacking stats in the league. I dread to see what they'll be like after another month of this set-up.
Doesn't matter how and when you score... Weve not scored the least amount of goals in the league...
We've scored in 10 of our 15 matches
Yes but I’m saying we scored a lot of goals using a system some have written off
If they’re so pointless why do the bookies and the clubs themselves all use them? If you think of them as a 100% accurate prediction tool then yeah, they’re a bit pointless, but they show trends in play which can give you an idea of how likely it is that current form is continued. You’d struggle to find many cases of a team completely dropping off midway through a season that wasn’t forecast by this kind of data.Last season we were 7th in the xg table and looked likely to go on and win the league anyway... These stats are almost pointless
Last season we were 7th in the xg table and looked likely to go on and win the league anyway... These stats are almost pointless
Like sunderland this season, top of league 1 xg... Not even in the playoffs and 9 teams have scored more than them
If they’re so pointless why do the bookies and the clubs themselves all use them? If you think of them as a 100% accurate prediction tool then yeah, they’re a bit pointless, but they show trends in play which can give you an idea of how likely it is that current form is continued. You’d struggle to find many cases of a team completely dropping off midway through a season that wasn’t forecast by this kind of data.
I agree, but we've conceded many and needed to plug the gap... We need to find the balance... Probably even still
It just goes round in circles, someone says we are weak going forward, you refer to our goals scored when a fair chunk of those came from 3 game in a system people now don't want to play. Then those who are concerned by how impotent the new setup is get called out for it.
The 3 atb system has served us well mostly up until this season... I have no doubt we will see it again at some point... People need to get a grip because all teams play shit from time to time.. I have no doubt if we performed anywhere near the level we can we'd have won yesterday... Didn't happen... Move on
Look I undertstand your frustration I do... But I had several people on here tell me the formation was nothing to do with us losing games... Which in itself is an insane thing to say,as I explained formations directly influence how a game plays out in various ways...
I already said I don't mind the wing back system, but I don't think it's as simple as saying... Play it... We win.
Because we weren't
Do people want to stay up playing dull, or go down playing pretty... Or we could mix it up and utilise several formations as and when required
You: sometimes teams just play bad, nothing to do with formations.
Also you: people who say formations have nothing to do with us losing games is insane.
Also, I entirely reject your false dichotomy of “go down playing pretty or stay up playing dull”. We will go down based on the performances we’ve put in with 451. We’ve survived against poor teams by the skin of our teeth and decent sides will take the piss.
Are you being serious?
The management yesterday was absolutely shocking. To most people, they don't see the brilliant strike from Hamer as a reason to gloss over what was a shocking performance and a ridiculous level of tactical decisions.
I know the pubs open today but you aren't supposed to drink unless you have a substantial meal. Take it easy.
We're going round in circles maybe so.
Reality is we've taken 5 points from 3 games using a flat back 4 conceding 2 goals.
It depends how you look at it... And also what you wnat or expect from us this season... Survival however its achieved priority number 1... Build from there
Bollocks... Palace and Burnley are masters of survival by playing turgid shite.
Reject away you're wrong
I think we'll have better survival chances by being more positive, not gung ho, against the teams around us. We bizarrely showed much more positive intent away at the league leaders than the league's bottom side
There are examples of it working right throughout the football pyramid every seasonFinding an example where it works doesn’t mean shit. Palace and Burnley also probably built a squad for that style, not a squad of ball playing kids with all the physical presence of a fucking poltergeist.
This squad will go down just sitting off for 90 minutes and hoping to Nick a late goal. Against teams that don’t have the worst goal scoring record in the division we’d have been 3/4 down before Robins asked the subs to warm up.
I dont know what to say... I'm actually happy for us to mix it up as and when we need to... But I see results.... I see the league position and we are where we would want to be right now
You: sometimes teams just play bad, nothing to do with formations.
Also you: people who say formations have nothing to do with us losing games is insane.
Also, I entirely reject your false dichotomy of “go down playing pretty or stay up playing dull”. We will go down based on the performances we’ve put in with 451. We’ve survived against poor teams by the skin of our teeth and decent sides will take the piss.
Bollocks... Palace and Burnley are masters of survival by playing turgid shite.
Reject away you're wrong
Teams can play badly and still get results ofcourse... But in average.... We were shipping alot of goals using that system
There are example s of it working right throughout the football pyramid every season
Examples of what? Squads full of physically slight ball playing kids switching system halfway through, playing out of position, and playing backs to the wall for 90 minutes? Really?
Kastaneer is our best person for slide tackles. What point are you trying to make?
There are many, many reasons listed in this thread as to why the management yesterday was piss poor.
Bringing on a defender who is good at set pieces (how many has he scored) and scoring a lucky wonder strike do not paper over that.
Teams playing styles that are designed to nullify and nick goals... With success... Every season mate... Ask Tottenham fans
Yes teams designed to play that way. I’ve got no issue with any style or formation you want on the whole, my issue is this formation doesn’t suit this squad. It means we have to play people out of position and drop some of our better players. And for that reason I don’t think it’ll work.
We just don’t have the wide AMs, the ST, or the fullbacks for 4231 IMO and the change is nothing but the fact we had a tough run prior to the break and overreacted.
IL be honest and il end my input here... Play whatever gets us results... Whatever that is I'm happy
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