skybluetony176
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SG isn't the sports correspondent.
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SG isn't the sports correspondent.
Sky Blue Kid
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Nick
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Strange how he keeps banging on about sports journalist of the year awards.
Liquid Gold
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I don't think it will because when even anybody tried to put pressure on the council they are told that sisu are the main problem and we should be focussing on them. I did ask for a link and you did provide which I'm grateful for but its highly inconclusive as I pointed out the article itself states they are in practice already going against their word. I'm hardly deflecting by trying to use some objectivity in it am I? Do you believe the council's statement over the leaked documents?
skybluetony176
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Perhaps LR could do it?
Otis
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I don't get it. When the CT do nothing, people moan. When they do, do something , people still moan.
Yep, by all means pursue the Butts thing, but surely this has to be applauded. They are at least trying to check out if anything at all is moving on the stadium front in terms of land enquiry or intent to build.
Yep, by all means pursue the Butts thing, but surely this has to be applauded. They are at least trying to check out if anything at all is moving on the stadium front in terms of land enquiry or intent to build.
hill83
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Being deeply entrenched in your standpoint and sticking to it is far more important though.
covcity4life
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lets not be naive. CET have an agenda.
also they have lots of free time now too
also they have lots of free time now too
skybluetony176
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So you don't think Fisher lies about everything? Just like anyone else you don't know what's BS and what isn't. Unlike everyone else though you use the line against people who use his quotes when it suit's you and then claim other people only believe him when suit's. You're no different. You chose to believe and disbelieve when suit's also.
GaryPendrysEyes
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SG's article is an update following Fisher's statements in May and around BPA 'embargo' and SCG meeting - a lot have fans have an interest, so fair play for investing time and getting some background facts; I hope they continue in that mode.
So Nick is your view that Fisher has been lying for years and is still lying about a new stadium?
So Nick is your view that Fisher has been lying for years and is still lying about a new stadium?
Nick
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Where have I click baited anything? I'm usually the one changing the titles on threads when they misleadVery good at "Click baiting" though Nick
Sky Blue Kid
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skybluebeduff
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Break down the agenda to people then, so we all know what the agenda is, the end game to it, and of course the gains apart from clicks, most people have Adblock so won't be seeing adverts for the website that gains them money.
olderskyblue
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Well, isn't that the point? It's an up to date response from those organisations contacted. I'm happy that we at least know the latest on this, although it would have been better if one of them (Coventry, Rugby, Warwick) said yes, and more talks are planned....
I don't really understand why any CCFC fan would have a problem with knowing the latest information on this.
Kingokings204
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Are we really arguing over some real news about our football club?
If the article had stated sisu had asked rugby council for a 10 minute chat everyone would be like see sisu are doing stuff. It's sad
If the article had stated sisu had asked rugby council for a 10 minute chat everyone would be like see sisu are doing stuff. It's sad
Otis
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Exbloodyactly!!!
skybluebeduff
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Because they never thought that far ahead without being outraged that the news isn't 'new'. They fail to see this is as latest to a fake stadium that they're getting.
Nick
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No issue with it, I just said he should have dug into the butts as that has been the latest "thing".
Nick
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With what?BEE cafeful Nick!
Esoterica
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I don't honestly understand your aversion to this. We're 18 months away from being homeless. The CT is embarrassing these days but I'm glad they're still whipping up a storm, even if their motives are dubious - the Academy and Ricoh rent situations are not something to be apathetic about. Wasps hold all the cards and their reason for not talking is clear - SISUs legal action. If a new stadium is just a bargaining tool, it's a shit one when they've very clearly done nothing serious about it at any point. So Fisher's political embargo statement, which intentionally came hand in hand with his distancing of himself and CCFC away from SISU was just another thinly veiled attempt to deflect on to other parties and distract from the fact our owners are doing absolutely nothing to secure our academy or playing future in either the short, medium or long term.
All I can see happening here is a hastily arranged last minute short term extension of the existing Ricoh rent deal, which is entirely reliant on Wasps goodwill and will likely come at a much higher premium if their terms have not been met. None of which is taking care of CCFC in any manner befitting this club and it's fans.
Nick
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My point is, it shouldn't be about whipping up a storm should it?
Dig in at Wasps and CCFC to get a deal there sorted. It isn't clear the legal action is the reason as they started talks knowing full well about it. So they both need pressure to sort a deal.
Sky Blue Kid
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You're very much the "Let's say something against that post because it is backing CCC/CT/anyone against SISU/Fisher/Sepalla" mold. Hence... You like to stir the bees nest up.
skybluetony176
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Every post you make is click bait. What do you want digging into with the BPA situation? They've asked CCC if any contact has been made over developing a stadium, there hasn't. TF claims it's stalled over a political embargo. What political embargo? There would have to be something to block for there to be an embargo wouldn't there? If you want the BPA situation digging into the digging has to happen at the door of CCFC/SISU. Have they moved forward with any plans? Have they got any plans? CRFC have also seem to gone quite on the subject. Is this because they've seen no progress from CCFC/SISU on it?
I'm saying you use the TF is a liar line more than people who accuse him of lying on any particular subject/quotation. You use it as a defense of him and SISU. You use it to dismiss people's view points if that view point is anti SISU. Yet you're happy to take it as gospel if it's a throwaway line like "political embargo" so that someone should do some digging into the BPA situation as if the BPA situation is somehow all down to CCC not CCFC. No one is stopping CCFC putting in some outline plans are they? No one is stopping them approaching CCC for talks about it as they have approached RBC over the development of Ryton for housing are they? No one is stopping them with meeting the local residents to discuss the implications to them as they have with the development of Ryton have they? You seem to want to make the BPA about CCC but the fact is that until CCFC push the proposal it isn't.
Nick
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Hardly, I just don't have one dimensional, black or white images.
Nick
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How is it using it as a defence? I was saying things shouldn't be stopped being dug into on his say so because he says something isn't happening.
I haven't taken it as gospel about the political embargo have I? That's why I am saying it should be dug into rather than just taken his word for it, in fact it's the absolute opposite to taking it as gospel.
Surely everything should be dug into, shouldn't it?
covcity4life
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agenda is to get sisu out and to back council and wasps. its their public thing now. to get people to buy the paper
in long run it might not be a good idea though if sisu continue to stay. as how long will people buy a paper that no longer gets exclusive interviews with the club etc?
Sky Blue Kid
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I've just read Tony's post #94.... That is the nail on the head response from me too!
skybluetony176
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It's not the article that's whipping up the storm it's the point's being made in it. The point's being made are the FOI responses that were made because of recent comments made by TF. So what's whipping up a storm? The CT or the responses from FOI's on TF's comments? The latter I would say. But you're more interested in shooting down the messenger.
Sky Blue Kid
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He's got you "Bang to rights" Nick.
clint van damme
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but that would be something new.
If you'd asked anyone last week what are sisu doing about building a new stadium and every one would have said nothing, so the CET put that in an article and everyone's up in arms. I don't get it.
Nick
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Not really, because there is nothing outrageous about them is there?
He said they had identified land, not submitted planning for one. I could identify land walking down the street.
It is either all about the Ricoh, or the Butts (let's face it, it has got further than any potential stadium by having those images drawn up and Sharpe confirming things). Dig into them to get at the actual points surely?
Nothing against FOI's, but as I have said for how long now, maybe start do to them to actually find things out.
Nothing has changed since last week in reality has it? We knew it was bollocks then.
clint van damme
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but this isn't latest information, I have thought for a long time that sisu have no intention of building a new stadium, I didn't need that opinion validating by the CET.
If they want to do something constructive they should try tracking down some of sisus elusive investors and ask them what they think about the way they're running CCFC, now that really would be interesting.