Otis
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Well first time I saw Wilson play I thought he looked incredibly raw and I didn't see much quality coming out that day.
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Well first time I saw Wilson play I thought he looked incredibly raw and I didn't see much quality coming out that day.
Greggs
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Raw ok, Mcwank has been plying his trade for 9 years, he shouldn't be raw!
shmmeee
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Thorn was given two games at this level with the same amount of squad upheaval.
Not saying Thorn was worth keeping, but you seem to be willing to give Pressley the benefit of the doubt when he's got a win % about the same as Coleman.
At the moment the guys record is: awful when taking over. Good with Wilson and Clarke up front for about 4 months. Awful again.
Like I've said before. I don't think we can do much better, but I'm starting to ha serious doubts about not just his transfer policy but also his tactical nouse.
Kingokings204
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Isn't gelling for pre season not the main event. I think it's completely understandable people are jumping the gun etc. This is just another loss in another game. I was so annoyed yesterday I can't begin to tell you.
No we didn't play too bad yesterday and I can see quality mcquiod and tudgay have IMO although they didn't show it but then again they were oven no service at all. If people saying Cardiff have a hangover from last season then so have we. Losing like winning is a habit and we haven't formed the habit yet. I just wish we had an easier next game. Cardiff and sheff united are as hard as it comes. 2 losses for me im afraid.
Otis
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Not seen enough of the club lately Shmmee, for the obvious reasons. With Thorn I was calling for him to be replaced the previous season, so the 2 games for me is a totall irrelevance.
I back SP because we have had so much upheaval and we need some sort of stability. For what it's worth I rated Robins while he was here. Think a lot has been muddied over and clouded by the issue of how he left.
So frustrating not going to games. I am probably not the right person to ask about SP's wort to be honest.
saltaire bantam
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5. Jordan Pickford (Keeper), Gary Liddle, Alan Sheehan, Billy Knott and Billy Clarke
Greggs
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Thank you pal
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The point remains though it's more how he does long term. If he's doing a good job with the academy, and making the club more professional overall, this would all be good things that would see results in the end.
That can be countered by, as you say, some seemingly curious decisions.
In terms of seasons I remain convinced we're seeing Bobby Gould's first spell re-enacted at a lower level. Crisis to start overcome by some terrific football before falling away. Gould's second season was a bit of a calamity however, so let's hope we don't mirror it all *too* much...
Otis
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But not all teams gel at the same time do they. Some sides take much longer to gel than others. Just cos Bradford gelled doesn't mean that we should have instantly too.
Greggs
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A good pre season, combined with good management and coaching should equate to some sort of team organisation. The players looked lost and confused yesterday. Can u explain this?
shy_tall_knight
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Not there yesterday but I am beginning to think that SP was just a lucky manager. None of the players brought in by him have had any meaningful impact. Last year Leon & wilson got us up the league, IMO there was not much of a gameplan other than try to outscore the opposition. Defensively poor, a revolving door of players coming and going may not be ll SP's fault but an initial policy of promoting our youth, changed to promoting other teams youth to getting players in on one year contracts. Hardly a long-term strategy.
CCFC_Charlie
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Not sure how I feel about Pressley, a lot of the view towards him is clouded by the fact he had 5 good months with the best strike partnership in the league at his disposal. His signings have been very poor so far, not including this season as it's far too early to judge and tactically he seems very suspect, like at the end of last season when so many decisions just didn't make sense. Also, the inability to sort out the defence is a big worry, it seems that whoever plays and in whatever formation we're always going to concede goals and it's getting to a point where it's looking less and less like the playing staffs fault and more the fault of the system they're being asked to play. We still need a striker, another centre back and a central midfielder (hopefully Pressley can see that now, Thomas isn't good enough and Fleck is unfit). All that being said however it still feels unfair to judge Pressley purely on results and what others say about how we've performed under him purely because I haven't actually seen us play under him enough, next 9 games are very important.
SkyBlueScottie
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IMO Pressley needs to be stuck with regardless of results. In Pressley I believe we have a manager who is trying to build the club up from the bottom. Why would we be better getting rid and getting an another manager who views it as just a job?
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And this is indeed the best argument for keeping him. He does, at least, seem to see the 'bigger picture' wrt the football side of the football club.
Sick Boy
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Thorn also contributed in getting us relegated the season before.
Not sure how you can compare SP to CC? Considering that Coleman had several millions to spend, and was here when the club was in a lot healthier state than it is now.
stupot07
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Very true, unfortunately most fans only care about the latest first team results not the structure of the football club, even if it will benefit us in the medium to long term.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Not that is a suggestion but I was thinking this the other day when he was at the fans forum, the way he was talking about how his scouting network has expanded from one scout when he initially arrived and how the U18s now have a lot of contact with the first team to give them an easier transition into the first. He does seem to look beyond just the next fixture.
I was thinking if it didn't work out for him as a manager he could make a good director of football or in a role similar to what Waggot does for us.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He is managing under even worse off field problems than Thorn. You have to make the best of the hand you're dealt and he hasn't been dealt a great one.
stupot07
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I agree. I think we should stick with him.
On a side note I think we tend to over estimate how good our squad is compared to others. Are Bradford really one of the worst sides in the league? In terms of points gained, they only gained 2 less than us last season.
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Hobo
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SP is trying to do the right things. As a few posters recognise, he is trying to rebuild the clubs infra structure. In order for this and the tactics to work, the playing staff have to by into that culture for it to work.
It even took Alex Ferguson a while to achieve this when he landed at Manchester United. SP hasn't got the resources that Ferguson had. But I would ask fans to recognise and applaud, at least what SP is trying to achieve. It is the direction the club needs to go in.
It even took Alex Ferguson a while to achieve this when he landed at Manchester United. SP hasn't got the resources that Ferguson had. But I would ask fans to recognise and applaud, at least what SP is trying to achieve. It is the direction the club needs to go in.
Sky Blue Kid
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I look at things this way...What is the common denominator in ALL of the managers over the last 7 years?..................SISU...I'll say no more!
Samo
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That and stupidly high rent...
torchomatic
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Breaking News: Sometimes teams lose football games.
torchomatic
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disappointed, but not suicidal .... 3:2 away from home, first match of a long season. how did we do in our first match last year ?
i believe it was a 3:2 away from home ??
then we went on a blinding run ....so, my medicine cabinet will stay shut for now, and my plans of a massive overdose will be on hold for a few months.
we are trying new systems, and new players...with still the shit of sixfeilds hanging over us.
come on city !! lets move back home and then we can all get behind SP and our team !!
i believe it was a 3:2 away from home ??
then we went on a blinding run ....so, my medicine cabinet will stay shut for now, and my plans of a massive overdose will be on hold for a few months.
we are trying new systems, and new players...with still the shit of sixfeilds hanging over us.
come on city !! lets move back home and then we can all get behind SP and our team !!
mrtrench
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Maybe Bradford had more pectin.
blaming it on the formation is to suggest you know more than the manager, seems much more likely to be that when you cut the budget massively last year and then cut it by 60% again this year thats going to have a serious impact on the size and quality of the squad. He's had to decimate the squad twice now and attempt to recruit in an impossible situation.
mark82
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Not the same team they were with Nakhi Wells. Think they will struggle. Just one game though, and as you rightly point out who would have seen Bristol City and Sheffield United struggling last year and Rotherham going up.
Evans1883
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Because im not a manager , doesnt mean my eyeballs dont work ,im positive that at 442 or 451 , we would have won yesterday ,bradford are a very average team , we made them look good , the formation saw to that
so yes you are saying you know more than the manager about football.