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David O'Day

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When there’s no comeback on MPs for talking complete BS in parliament why should Raynor be pulled up for telling the truth?

She said that at the time, the scumbag was lying about her
 

skybluetony176

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I see the vote on feeding poor kids over the summer was defeated. The same deluded Tory voting fuckwits who say "Why can't we be like Sweden?" in relation to Covid can't see the link.
They seemed to spend all afternoon taking great glee in blaming the previous administration and then voted it down. Self defeating, all they’ve done is take ownership of it 100%.
 

shmmeee

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I don’t care how good a superforcaster you’re supposed to be, you have to be pants on head stupid to plan a strategy that involves starving kids at Christmas during a pandemic and saying it’s to teach their lazy parents a lesson.
 

David O'Day

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I don’t care how good a superforcaster you’re supposed to be, you have to be pants on head stupid to plan a strategy that involves starving kids at Christmas during a pandemic and saying it’s to teach their lazy parents a lesson.
cummings isn't a superforcaster
 
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On a purely objective level, for a government such as ours to vote down the free meals proposal, seems a massive own goal. On the one level they do have a point that it doesn't solve the root causes of poverty. However, the cost is relatively small compared to other spending

And... it's not like Johnson isn't above a bit of superficial opportunism! It seems that this is a (relatively cheap) way to get people onside, and allow them to point to how they do listen, and do look out for the needy. As it stands, they're alienating their new base, and many other areas besides, and for what? Again, the cost is relatively small compared to other bailouts they're handing out just at the moment.

It's not a wise move politically.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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On a purely objective level, for a government such as ours to vote down the free meals proposal, seems a massive own goal. On the one level they do have a point that it doesn't solve the root causes of poverty. However, the cost is relatively small compared to other spending

And... it's not like Johnson isn't above a bit of superficial opportunism! It seems that this is a (relatively cheap) way to get people onside, and allow them to point to how they do listen, and do look out for the needy. As it stands, they're alienating their new base, and many other areas besides, and for what? Again, the cost is relatively small compared to other bailouts they're handing out just at the moment.

It's not a wise move politically.

What the need to do is incorporate schools as banks - they'll throw whatever money they want at them then and poor or reckless performance will be no barrier to the aid they can access.
 

David O'Day

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Labour are going to keep forcing votes on free school meals it seems, lets see how many times the tories can keep voting no
 

chiefdave

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Rumours swirling around of a pending u-turn on kids meals. Seems Conservative MPs who voted against it are now unhappy they are being held to account by their constituents.

Hancock claims Johnson and Rashford are talking, Rashford knows nothing about it.


Also this morning calls for Johnson and Patel to apologise for attacks on lawyers. This is the problem with the Conservatives trying to claim they have been getting abuse following Raynors comments, people might then turn round and highlight your own actions.
 

skybluetony176

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Rumours swirling around of a pending u-turn on kids meals. Seems Conservative MPs who voted against it are now unhappy they are being held to account by their constituents.

Hancock claims Johnson and Rashford are talking, Rashford knows nothing about it.

Started to think they orchestrated this to slip this through without anyone noticing
Probably worked and backfired at the same time. I don’t think they expected the response they got from local businesses and individuals.
 

wingy

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shmmeee

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Rumours swirling around of a pending u-turn on kids meals. Seems Conservative MPs who voted against it are now unhappy they are being held to account by their constituents.

Hancock claims Johnson and Rashford are talking, Rashford knows nothing about it.


Also this morning calls for Johnson and Patel to apologise for attacks on lawyers. This is the problem with the Conservatives trying to claim they have been getting abuse following Raynors comments, people might then turn round and highlight your own actions.


Random question: Can Rashford now have “Rashford MBE” on the back of his shirt? Is he the first non retired footballer to be given an honour?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Random question: Can Rashford now have “Rashford MBE” on the back of his shirt? Is he the first non retired footballer to be given an honour?

Steven Davis and Harry Kane also have MBEs, Jermain Defoe has an OBE. Stanley Matthews was knighted while still active I think
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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These PPE contracts are scandalous.


I understand buying in excess given we were caught with our pants down at the start having ignored Cygnet, but to have bought nearly 60 times the amount we've supposedly used is excessive, and certainly totally unnecessary under 'emergency contracts' which avoid scrutiny. They could be bought using usual procurement methods.

There is a part of me that things the sums somewhere must be wrong and we've used more than that, but the fact that I also think it's well within the realms of possibility for this government to do something so corrupt to ensure mates and donors get more public funds during a time of crisis in which tens of thousands are dying it shows just how little faith I have not just in their competence but also in their ethics.

There are times when I wish I was religious so I could at least believe these bastards would eventually get their comeuppance.
 

wingy

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I understand buying in excess given we were caught with our pants down at the start having ignored Cygnet, but to have bought nearly 60 times the amount we've supposedly used is excessive, and certainly totally unnecessary under 'emergency contracts' which avoid scrutiny. They could be bought using usual procurement methods.

There is a part of me that things the sums somewhere must be wrong and we've used more than that, but the fact that I also think it's well within the realms of possibility for this government to do something so corrupt to ensure mates and donors get more public funds during a time of crisis in which tens of thousands are dying it shows just how little faith I have not just in their competence but also in their ethics.

There are times when I wish I was religious so I could at least believe these bastards would eventually get their comeuppance.
Might include items they might prefer to not publicise , associated with death?
 

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