Grendel
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The real stupidity was it allowed Farage to get a voice back. If he’d left it he’d have gone off to toddle after Trump in his presidential campaign
I'd love to know what his thoughts were.
University students back home so voting in more conservative seats, so less influence on results?
With his knowledge of football, maybe he was expecting England to be taking the Euros by storm and he could ride the wav of Euphoria(!)
Overall though he's managed to top May's campaign for ineptitude really - right from the beginning it's been shockingly bad!
I dunno still think his ego would have found a way in whenever it was held.The real stupidity was it allowed Farage to get a voice back. If he’d left it he’d have gone off to toddle after Trump in his presidential campaign
That's very true, but ... the problem is that consecutive government's only look at the short term, ie, immigration leads to growth, and it can do in the very short term.
Long term it leads to collapse of services and infrastructure, shortages of housing, house price inflation, and ultimately the end of the NHS which will eventually have to be replaced by some form of private medical care system.
And now his leaving speech promotes tolerance etc. Why on earth did he go the way he did...?The baffling thing with Sunak's term is his USP was he was sane if dull and geeky, but somehow he jumped in with the extreme rhetoric at times so looked utterly mad!
How many people voted for them because of tax as opposed to immigration?Funnily enough, Farage’s big pitch was to turn the clock back to 1997 (tongue in cheek). Taxation, net migration and public services back to levels seen before Blair became PM.
Immigration would be main appeal for ‘red wall’ areas and taxation a focus in attracting ‘blue wall’ support. Calling them a single issue party is reductive and wrong.
How many people voted for them because of tax as opposed to immigration?
Starting to wonder if I'm the only one on this thread that has a job to go toYou all been on speed through the night or something? Anybody slept?
Was sad enough to take the day off as leaveStarting to wonder if I'm the only one on this thread that has a job to go to
And now his leaving speech promotes tolerance etc. Why on earth did he go the way he did...?
Election day itself probably should be a bank holiday tbfStarting to wonder if I'm the only one on this thread that has a job to go to
He only wants the relatively small amount of dinghy’s stoppedWell when you have 685,000 people arriving in the UK in 2023 (according to the net migration observatory) it's hardly surprising that the pressure on infrastructure becomes intolerable.
The NHS can't keep up, housing supply can't keep up, house prices escalate as demand rockets etc etc etc.
Farage isn't against immigration, but the numbers need to be managed to preserve our services.
I took leave today. I always take the day off after an election. I lasted until 3.30am.Starting to wonder if I'm the only one on this thread that has a job to go to
If you have that breakdown, please do share. They got 15% of the national vote, that’s not indicative of a single issue party. That’s more than the Lib Dems!How many people voted for them because of tax as opposed to immigration?
Well yes. It goes bak to though that his USP was he wasn't the pair who came before him... and he allowed himself to take on some of their trappings.Because I think that’s fundamentally what he believes in. You could tell with his speech on Farage’s comments about him “not understanding the culture” or whatever it was. I think he’s been dragged to a place he didn’t really feel comfortable by the party dynamics.
The Green leaders spoke a lot more about economic justice than the environment which is why they ultimately got my vote. I only ever heard Farage blaming foreigners for the country’s problems.If you have that breakdown, please do share. They got 15% of the national vote, that’s not indicative of a single issue party. That’s more than the Lib Dems!
Did you vote Greens purely on their environmental/net zero policy alone? I know my friends who voted Greens didn’t. To draw a comparison, calling the Greens a single issue party is equally misguided.
Literally all that matters is winning the election, by as large a margin as possible, and that's exactly what they've done.
How can a huge majority be anything other than a brilliant result, to suggest anything else is just saltiness.
His biggest disappointment was holding his Harrogate seat.Sunak really was rather stupid to call the election when he did
It ain't Harrogate.His biggest disappointment was holding his Harrogate seat.
His biggest disappointment was holding his Harrogate seat.
Got till 5am not particularly productive currently but am spending the afternoon in the prison so won’t need to be too aware or awakeI took leave today. I always take the day off after an election. I lasted until 3.30am.
Always knew your fashion sense would land you in troubleGot till 5am not particularly productive currently but am spending the afternoon in the prison so won’t need to be too aware or awake
Lying back and thinking of England?Got till 5am not particularly productive currently but am spending the afternoon in the prison so won’t need to be too aware or awake
correct N Yorks. Thanks NWIt ain't Harrogate.
The inlaws' constituency. No doubt you'll be delighted that they vote Tory...correct N Yorks. Thanks NW
Was about to post the same.... kier the nowhere man has managed to increase labour's share of the vote by a huge 1.6% since their worst showing in 2019....
The Green leaders spoke a lot more about economic justice than the environment which is why they ultimately got my vote. I only ever heard Farage blaming foreigners for the country’s problems.
My last job was working from home and it was pretty shocking to me how many people in my area are around in the day and clearly not working, and not just those that are retired. And they definately weren't people who were working from home as they were never working!We used to have 4 working people to every retired person, now it's 3 and soon it will be 2.
A cabinet that will be up to 90% educated at a comprehensive school. Refreshing.
A cabinet that will be up to 90% educated at a comprehensive school. Refreshing.
There you go…
I laboured to listen to a few manifesto launches and Reform made an effort to talk more on the economy and tax. On the NHS, they had some creative policies too such as abolishing basic tax for nurses and GPs. Of course immigration was a main topic, as it is for the electorate as a whole. It has consistently been a top 3 issue at elections since 2005 and you may not think numbers are too high, but that’s a minority view according to polls.
It’s clearly a salient issue, rightly or wrongly. Labour could come unstuck if they don’t make good on their promise to reduce net migration.
Shame it's the likes of Wes fucking Streeting though
Yep not mentioned because they are all the sameA cabinet that will be up to 90% educated at a comprehensive school. Refreshing.
Shame it's the likes of Wes fucking Streeting though
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