MalcSB
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Personally I think the fucking train drivers were the least deserving cause. They get paid more than BA Pilots, FFS. I suppose they are flying very low though.
Personally I think the fucking train drivers were the least deserving cause. They get paid more than BA Pilots, FFS. I suppose they are flying very low though.Sorry WASPI is the least deserving cause ever in UK politics. The fact every politician had to suck up to them, including Corbyn torpedoing his manifesto just for them is ridiculous and like school fees and inheritance tax is only an issue because it affect upper middle class Telegraph writers.
The trouble is that upper middle class women tend to be more articulate than some others. Huge generalisation I know, but not an inaccurate observation.Yeah sure. But the media campaign around it is because it affects upper middle class women. Look at the stories about how “I had to sell the second home early and take up Reiki” and stuff.
You don’t deserve compensation for changes to benefits that are telegraphed fifteen years ahead of time and the only reason they weren’t laughed out the room on first sight was because of the demographics of those complaining.
This whole “it’s about the kids” line doesn’t add up. The money raised from the VAT on private education has been pledged to go directly into state education. There’s just over 10 million children in state education, there’s about 500k in private (around 6 percent of who are foreign). If it’s about “the kid’s” then surely you should support this policy. An extra estimated £1.5 billion into state education on 10 million children vs tax breaks for the parents of 500k in private education some of who aren’t even UK citizens so tax breaks to foreigners.
As I said Nick, it’s class war and almost as bad as racism.It's jealousy though, isn't it?
Will be interesting how much actually gets put into state education and if there is actually £1.5bn made by the time schools have back claimed and kids have moved from Private to State schools. Bursaries are going down as well as scholarships too.
"Tax Breaks" for foreigners who come here and graft and will also be paying their taxes and want the best for the kids = bad
Give foreigners everything for free who will never pay any tax = give me more
Yeah sure. But the media campaign around it is because it affects upper middle class women. Look at the stories about how “I had to sell the second home early and take up Reiki” and stuff.
You don’t deserve compensation for changes to benefits that are telegraphed fifteen years ahead of time and the only reason they weren’t laughed out the room on first sight was because of the demographics of those complaining.
As I said Nick, it’s class war and almost as bad as racism.
Women’s State Pension age: our findings on the Department for Work and Pensions’ communication of changes | Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman (PHSO)
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Note the use of the word “failings”
Im assuming the Ombudsman is more neutral than, say, Sue Gray was when she investigated cakegate or the police when they investigated Starmer’s beer and curry party. Or Rayners housing arrangement. I would imagine being an ex DPP still carries some benefit.
It's jealousy though, isn't it?
It's jealousy and I doubt many have even been in a normal private school and seen the type of kids / families there. (not talking Eton etc). They wouldn't see that a fair few of the people are the same "class" as them but just go without and prioritise that for their kids.
They have probably never tried to find a place in a state school for a kid in private schooling either when they say "just move them". I know a kid whose parents tried, they are pretty much guaranteed A*s or 8s and 9s at GCSE. Never had a detention, glowing reports every year, teachers say they were a dream, Could they get a space in a state school though? No chance, even less of a chance halfway through the year.
No.
It's wanting the richest in society to pay tax on things.
No.
It's wanting the richest in society to pay tax on things.
No.
It's wanting the richest in society to pay tax on things.
Yeah mate the reason all the professional educators in this thread are against private schooling is lack of knowledge. Good one.
Parents of children at private schools pay tax I believe
Like I said, ever been in one to see that a fair few aren't the "richest in society"?
Course not, just sit and be jealous.
I know lots of people that send their kids to private school. It's nothing to do with jealousy.
Sounds like good old fashioned British bootlicking from your end though.
The average is £25k a yearIt's jealousy and I doubt many have even been in a normal private school and seen the type of kids / families there. (not talking Eton etc). They wouldn't see that a fair few of the people are the same "class" as them but just go without and prioritise that for their kids.
They have probably never tried to find a place in a state school for a kid in private schooling either when they say "just move them". I know a kid who's parents tried, they are pretty much guaranteed A*s or 8s and 9s at GCSE. Never had a detention, glowing reports every year, teachers say they were a dream, Could they get a space in a state school though? No chance, even less of a chance halfway through the year.
Obviously not in your view.Yeah a letter was sent out late. It’s not worth £10bn of public money is it?
Yes Nick, paying twice. The bastards.Ironically still pay their share of tax towards education as well. Baddies though.
The funny thing is that one of the real offputting things about a primary school with my daughter was when you had an immigrant family who whacked their 6 kids in, won't work a day in their lives and kids can't speak a word of English so need more resources.
Immigration isn't an issue at all, it's all those nasty people probably earning about 60k in their household and choosing to send their kid to a private school while they graft their arses off.
(Just to note, this isn't every family from a foreign country. There are also plenty where the kids grow up bi-lingual and it's amazing. A lot of the polish kids were fluent in both)
The average is £25k a year
That’s not saving a few quid
There are people who will struggle but if it was as simple as adding £1.5bn to the cost of private education to give an extra £1.5bn to state education wouldn’t you say that’s a good thing?Yeah take out the silly places like Eton and look at them then.
ie the ones in Cov you were looking at about £15k a year before the VAT.
You have a couple earning £65k between them and just shy of £13k a year of that is tax...
Which they already doNo.
It's wanting the richest in society to pay tax on things.
Sadly these things are never that straightforward.There are people who will struggle but if it was as simple as adding £1.5bn to the cost of private education to give an extra £1.5bn to state education wouldn’t you say that’s a good thing?
Which they already do
There are people who will struggle but if it was as simple as adding £1.5bn to the cost of private education to give an extra £1.5bn to state education wouldn’t you say that’s a good thing?
Made a donation, hope everything goes OK.It’s interesting that when I have referred to oil revenues in the past I’ve been told that’s not how the market works, so I shut up about it. To have retained the gold and it now be at that value would surely have been helpful. To a certain extent the fact he sold it perhaps is something of an illustration of how bad things were globally in those days. Inherited by the coalition and leading to austerity.
We will never know what would have happened if Brown had timed the election better. We may have had 14 years of Labour austerity.
Thanks for reading the article, entitled “The worst deal in UK history?” And for pointing out my miscomprehension of it.
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But not on the very thing we are discussing.
Or do they only have to pay tax on some things and pay no tax on other things because...they're rich?
Of courseSadly these things are never that straightforward.
Of course
Could it be?
4800 of them?Where will the thousands of kids in private schools go and will the state schools be able to make spaces for them?
4800 of them?
There’s 32000 schools in the uk
You are being sarcastic aren’t you?Oh there's plenty of schools then, not to worry.
Which project's are these, pretty sure thing's are vatable ?You say that like it's a straight transfer.
Personally, I'd have looked more into separating out places like King Henrys and Pattison in Cov to places like Eton and Harrow. Especially when it's the places like Eton and Harrow which are now going to be claiming back the most tax for Capitol Projects
It isn't as simple as "put the prices up here, use money here". There will also be the kids moving from private to state (or trying to).
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