Do you want to discuss boring politics? (20 Viewers)

[MalcSB]

..........no

Now you see I knew someone would say that which is interestingly racist in itself.
@shmmeee always refers to brown people, never black people. Which seems a bit racist to pick one ethnic minority over another.

 

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[MalcSB]

I read the mail...sports section down the tube .Oliver Holt is too much politics imo.
The one thing I truly enjoy is Quentin Letts Westminster column. He writes most days now ,as you probably know, his insight into Parliament personalities is illuminating & always hilarious.
Hitchens pops up now & again but he has lost the plot with his obsession for a Lucy Letby re-trial.
Andrew Neil Saturday always worth a read : economically he has the current government as "na na na na fkin useless". Boris I tend to skip.

Us boomers ,we have had a wonderful life though haven't we ?
What a time to be born , I thank my lucky stars.
We nearly had it all !!

You are wrong,

According to the ageists here, we had it all and have kept a firm grip on it all.

They are always right.

 

[SBT]

Now you see I knew someone would say that which is interestingly racist in itself.
@shmmeee always refers to brown people, never black people. Which seems a bit racist to pick one ethnic minority over another.

What are you talking about? Kemi Badenoch is a black woman. It's not racist for me or anyone to say that - you could do with a day or three off.

 

[shmmeee]

Now you see I knew someone would say that which is interestingly racist in itself.
@shmmeee always refers to brown people, never black people. Which seems a bit racist to pick one ethnic minority over another.

Black people aren’t literally black though so I use brown as a generic non white descriptor sometimes.

 

[MalcSB]

I read the mail...sports section down the tube .Oliver Holt is too much politics imo.
The one thing I truly enjoy is Quentin Letts Westminster column. He writes most days now ,as you probably know, his insight into Parliament personalities is illuminating & always hilarious.
Hitchens pops up now & again but he has lost the plot with his obsession for a Lucy Letby re-trial.
Andrew Neil Saturday always worth a read : economically he has the current government as "na na na na fkin useless". Boris I tend to skip.
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Us boomers ,we have had a wonderful life though haven't we ?
What a time to be born , I thank my lucky stars.
We nearly had it all !!

Quentin Letts is hilarious.

Andrew Neil is a proper political journalist who really does give politicians a run for their (should that be our) money. I darent use him as a source though, far too good at his job to be anything but a rubbish source according ro the imperilled labour supporters on here.

 

[shmmeee]

Personally not convinced the landslide was down to a detailed study of Reeves economic plans, for me it was more a 'get them out' result. Would say we'll see next time round but Badenoch seems intent on making them even less popular.

I mean all elections are to some extent. But people wanted them out in 2017 and 2019 and Labour lost.

It’s really not some out there idea that in order to win elections parties have to place themselves closer to the median voter than their base.

 

[MalcSB]

Black people aren’t literally black though so I use brown as a generic non white descriptor sometimes.

Thats how I feel. Whites aren’t literally white either. My comment about Badenoch was intended to tees out that explanation. Or a bit of a trap that someone else fell in to giving you the opportunity to explain your view under no duress.

 

[MalcSB]

I mean all elections are to some extent. But people wanted them out in 2017 and 2019 and Labour lost.

It’s really not some out there idea that in order to win elections parties have to place themselves closer to the median voter than their base.

How very underhand and dishonest.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

You are wrong,

According to the ageists here, we had it all and have kept a firm grip on it all.

They are always right.

Of course the left are right.
We can only win the occasional battle. So when those wins come along enjoy them that little bit more !!
Inauguration Day 2025
YMCA

 

[shmmeee]

Thats how I feel. Whites aren’t literally white either. My comment about Badenoch was intended to tees out that explanation. Or a bit of a trap that someone else fell in to giving you the opportunity to explain your view under no duress.

Whatever the descriptor. Hating brown people doesn’t mean you can’t also have black people. The actual point was that all political parties move away from their base and towards the median voter. Perhaps wokeness is a better word for what the Tories have to fake.

 

[shmmeee]

How very underhand and dishonest.

Appealing to what the majority of the population want in a democracy is underhand now?

 

[CovValleyBoy]

Quentin Letts is hilarious.

Andrew Neil is a proper political journalist who really does give politicians a run for their (should that be our) money. I darent use him as a source though, far too good at his job to be anything but a rubbish source according ro the imperilled labour supporters on here.

QL I think is a genius. How they let him go for that spell was a misstep.
Glad he back. Daily Therapy.

 

[Captain Dart]

You have far more faith in the competence of the people running the country than I do!

I have no faith in any of them, have you not noticed they never do as they promise and they spend most of their time blaming everything on their predecessors.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Just aware of what it takes to get elected and what the general public worry about when thinking of voting Labour. You can say she isn’t popular but her approach won a landslide sooo…

The most unpopular Tory government in recorded history and Labour squeezed around a third of the vote.

An electoral landslide but far from it in the popular vote. Reeves and Starmer can keep wanking over shaving £5.50 off the deficit, as happened in the US it won’t help them at the next GE against a right wing charlatan

 

[shmmeee]

The most unpopular Tory government in recorded history and Labour squeezed around a third of the vote.

An electoral landslide but far from it in the popular vote. Reeves and Starmer can keep wanking over shaving £5.50 off the deficit, as happened in the US it won’t help them at the next GE against a right wing charlatan

The popular vote means nothing. Not understanding this was exactly what Corbyn got wrong. You play the game you’re in not the one you wish you were in. Strategy would be entirely different under a different system.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The popular vote means nothing. Not understanding this was exactly what Corbyn got wrong. You play the game you’re in not the one you wish you were in. Strategy would be entirely different under a different system.

They could have won with any strategy last year.

 

[Sick Boy]

Pretty much, you soak them overnight rather than cook and then add fruit or nuts or whatever. Takes 5 minutes to make a weeks worth and you just get them out the fridge in the morning and eat them. Job done.

I've always soaked oats overnights when cooking porridge and discovered them by accident after being too lazy to bother cooking them. Love them in the summer.

 

[Sick Boy]

Porridge with salt? Not tried it but sounds random

It's the traditional way of eating it, I think.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Giving kids from families that can’t afford it a healthy nutritious breakfast, is great and a good use of cash

Giving all kids whether they need it or not, a substandard breakfast, not so good

I’ve seen what hospitals give patients recovering from illness and medical procedures to eat, so unfortunately I dont hold out much hope.

Not sure why those are the only options?

 

[PVA]

Corbyn had more votes for that in 2017 than Starmer and Reeves. Log off man its embarrassing.

I must have been living under a rock for those 4 years where Corbyn was PM with a stonking majority. Must have been fun!

 

[fernandopartridge]

I must have been living under a rock for those 4 years where Corbyn was PM with a stonking majority. Must have been fun!

The point is that Labour attracted more votes than Reeves, and that was in response to the "she does it to win elections" stuff. She's been the beneficiary of the Tory vote splitting to Reform, whereas the 2019 election was won by a broadly pro-Brexit cohort of voters unifying with the Tories. Tory + Reform got just under 11m compared with 14.5m for Tory + Brexit party in 2019.

It's called the popular vote for a reason. FPTP is not a great representative of it.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I remember going to Auschwitz and thinking how crass some c**t I saw taking photos in front of the Arbeit Macht Frie sign was.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I remember going to Auschwitz and thinking how crass some c**t I saw taking photos in front of the Arbeit Macht Frie sign was.

The replies to it btw, fucking hell.

 

[Grendel]

I must have been living under a rock for those 4 years where Corbyn was PM with a stonking majority. Must have been fun!

We have a stonking majority because of the system which makes it possible to achieve it when 7 out of 10 don’t want it. It’s pretty obvious you actually have zero understanding or belief in any political ideology. It’s just vibes and follow what you perceive is the in crowd of the day.

 

[fernandopartridge]

We'll no doubt be reconsidering the merits of FPTP in 2029

 

[Grendel]

We'll no doubt be reconsidering the merits of FPTP in 2029

The irony will be lost on the laughing emoji

 

[shmmeee]

We'll no doubt be reconsidering the merits of FPTP in 2029

It’s never changing. The absolute best shot was 2011 and that was a disaster. Afraid you’ll have to live in the real world.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It’s never changing. The absolute best shot was 2011 and that was a disaster. Afraid you’ll have to live in the real world.

I'm not asking for it mate

 

[shmmeee]

I'm not asking for it mate

Fair enough. Then you’ll have to accept political reality that piling up votes in safe seats doesn’t win elections.

 

[PVA]

The irony will be lost on the laughing emoji

The irony of complaining about the irony of a laughing emoji then following it up with a laughing emoji

 

[shmmeee]

More bad news for Grendel

 

[fernandopartridge]

More bad news for Grendel

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Good. I'm sure you agree then that any prospective cuts to the welfare bill are unnecessary.

 

[MalcSB]

Better than losing both. And four years is a long time in politics. At this point in 2015 Milliband was ahead.

Matter of opinion. Better for whom?

 

[MalcSB]

More bad news for Grendel

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Hmm. A whole 2 weeks sample size.

 

[MalcSB]

Black people aren’t literally black though so I use brown as a generic non white descriptor sometimes.

All the time.