Do you want to discuss boring politics? (20 Viewers)

[Mcbean]

You can go as far as you like on red diesel as long as you're doing agricultural work - which protesting most certainly is not of course!

Mmm for snow clearing or clearing crap up as this is it’s ok

 

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[shmmeee]

Mmm for snow clearing or clearing crap up as this is it’s ok

Very weird boot licking behaviour.

 

[Mcbean]

Oh and I guess she’s updating her CV correctly for her next job application which shouldn’t be too long

 

[chiefdave]

Well, looks like big business are reacting to the WFH situation.

‘I’ve had it’: JP Morgan boss rails against Gen Z in expletive-laden outburst

Leaked recording of Jamie Dimon rant highlights growing frustrations over home working

www.telegraph.co.uk

Laughable, if for no other reason than his dislike for WFH is apparently based on him not being able to phone people are Fridays.

Does anyone really believe the boss of J P Morgan spends his days phoning low level staff.

If the other senior level employees, most of whom have had hybrid working long before the rest of us got a chance, aren't answering the phone then address the actual problem, don't force everyone else back into the office.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

“Let’s fire the chancellor because she’s got 5.5 and not 6 years of experience at a bank”

*spends 14 years voting for Marmalade salesmen and journalists as chancellor*

She claimed a decade working at the BOE. 10 -5 = 5.
She exaggerated by 5 years ??
& allegedly fiddled her Xs ? Not good.
That's my understanding although I haven't had time to look at the detail.
So hands up, happy to be corrected.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

Yeah I’m forever grateful to farmers for creating the natural phenomenon of the British countryside.

You don't visit the countryside do you? Dont listen to others with possibly the same narrow perspective. Nip over to our green belt. You can't be far away.
Take a walk. Have a look & a think. Come back and tell us what you learnt ?

 

[Sick Boy]

You don't visit the countryside do you? Dont listen to others with possibly the same narrow perspective. Nip over to our green belt. You can't be far away.
Take a walk. Have a look & a think. Come back and tell us what you learnt ?

Priceless hahaha.

 

[shmmeee]

Laughable, if for no other reason than his dislike for WFH is apparently based on him not being able to phone people are Fridays.

Does anyone really believe the boss of J P Morgan spends his days phoning low level staff.

If the other senior level employees, most of whom have had hybrid working long before the rest of us got a chance, aren't answering the phone then address the actual problem, don't force everyone else back into the office.

Weird. It’s Friday and I’ve spoken to my boss and my bosses boss today. Must be some crazy innovation we’ve got that JP Morgan don’t.

 

[chiefdave]

Weird. It’s Friday and I’ve spoken to my boss and my bosses boss today. Must be some crazy innovation we’ve got that JP Morgan don’t.

Not sure 'nobody answers when I call them' is saying quite what he thinks it is.

 

[MalcSB]

I'd say the hypocrisy is the other way round!

You can guarantee the majority of those farmers were raging about JSO blocking ambulances etc.

Jeremy Clarkson was saying you're only allowed to protest if you're protesting about Gaza or JSO, yet joined in with the farmer's protest.


Everyone has the right to protest (peacefully, of course).good likelihood that every

Using red diesel on the roads is illegal though.

Are you telling me that there is a good chance that every tractor I get stuck behind in a road, despite their being loads of surrounding fields, is likely to be breaking the law by using red diesel.
Bastards.

 

[PVA]

Are you telling me that there is a good chance that every tractor I get stuck behind in a road, despite their being loads of surrounding fields, is likely to be breaking the law by using red diesel.
Bastards.

No, they are most likely obeying the law.

 

[fernandopartridge]

She claimed a decade working at the BOE. 10 -5 = 5.
She exaggerated by 5 years ??
& allegedly fiddled her Xs ? Not good.
That's my understanding although I haven't had time to look at the detail.
So hands up, happy to be corrected.

The quote I'd seen said "the best part of a decade" and to be fair to her, 6 years is the best part of a decade (i.e. the greater part). It's immaterial though anyway isn't it? Judge her on what she does not how long she said she'd worked somewhere.

 

[shmmeee]

Who exactly do the right want instead with better economic credentials? It’s such a dumb argument even on its own terms, but the right has been extra stupid since the election.

 

[rob9872]

The left
The right
Woke
Gammon
Snowflake

 

[fernandopartridge]

And anyway, fiddling her expenses whilst working at HBOS. Good, these institutions rob the public blind every day and then when it all went tits up had a massive bail out from the government. Genuinely couldn't care less.

 

[Captain Dart]

Wonderful, more price increases on the way.

 

[wingy]

I struggle to understand how making whoever inherits your estate pay inheritance tax after your death has any bearing whatsoever on your current ability to produce food. Can somebody explain?

Exiting the EU,disaster.

 

[chiefdave]

UK working culture. My, oh my. Rant incoming...

There is a big push at the moment to try and get people to stop WFH and back in the office. It is classic British small-mindedness. We were behind the curve in trusting people to do that, but Covid meant there was no other choice. The amount of Linkedin (yes, I hate it) postings and ads that show up, or recruiters that contact me (even though I clearly have a job) trying to push me into a job that's in an office 5 days a week is mad.

Don't get me started on the salaries in the UK either... They are absolutely laughable compared to a lot of other countries. There is this whole crab bucket syndrome here: You will work from home 5 days a week, and you will earn next to nothing for the privilege of it. If you dare to do better we will bitch about you and give you a hard time. Honestly, it is pretty toxic here.

Its crazy to me. Pretty much all the available evidence suggests that working from home leads to increased productivity so purely from a business perspective you'd say it was a good thing before you even consider work / life balance for employees, lower number of sick days, the reduction in staff turnover and the environmental benefit of taking commuters off the roads.

Plus you're cutting a huge section of the workforce out of your potential recruitment because they won't even consider a 5 days a week in the office role.

Then as you say we compare how we have things here compared to elsewhere and you really start to see how shit it us.

We have a real problem in this country with the attitude of 'its the same everywhere' when it really isn't. Add in that the idea of any sector of workers getting an improvement in either pay or conditions having everyone else up in arms and nothing is going to change any time soon.

Really regret not moving overseas permanently when I had the chance but can't really change that now. Only child with two elderly parents and past the age that most countries are going to wave you in without any questions and of course the route to moving to another European country isn't as simple as it once was.

 

[shmmeee]

Its crazy to me. Pretty much all the available evidence suggests that working from home leads to increased productivity so purely from a business perspective you'd say it was a good thing before you even consider work / life balance for employees, lower number of sick days, the reduction in staff turnover and the environmental benefit of taking commuters off the roads.

Plus you're cutting a huge section of the workforce out of your potential recruitment because they won't even consider a 5 days a week in the office role.

Then as you say we compare how we have things here compared to elsewhere and you really start to see how shit it us.

We have a real problem in this country with the attitude of 'its the same everywhere' when it really isn't. Add in that the idea of any sector of workers getting an improvement in either pay or conditions having everyone else up in arms and nothing is going to change any time soon.

Really regret not moving overseas permanently when I had the chance but can't really change that now. Only child with two elderly parents and past the age that most countries are going to wave you in without any questions and of course the route to moving to another European country isn't as simple as it once was.

We’ve just got the worst of all worlds. Tiny expensive houses. Poor public realm and public services. Shit wages and economy.

Footy and tea though, footy and tea.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I don't understand why the way energy generated is sold isn't just fixed? Why is the same price paid for energy which has a completely different cost of production? Renewables cost significantly less to produce yet our bills just represent the highest costs of all energy produced.

UK Electricity Production

Tracking the decarbonisation of UK electricity production

electricityproduction.uk

Capitalism in Britain seems to be all about state interference only insofar as supporting the right to fixed profits. It's not about letting markets operate properly.

It's a fucking racket.

 

[shmmeee]

I don't understand why the way energy generated is sold isn't just fixed? Why is the same price paid for energy which has a completely different cost of production? Renewables cost significantly less to produce yet our bills just represent the highest costs of all energy produced.

UK Electricity Production

Tracking the decarbonisation of UK electricity production

electricityproduction.uk

Capitalism in Britain seems to be all about state interference only insofar as supporting the right to fixed profits. It's not about letting markets operate properly.

It's a fucking racket.

Absolutely mad isn’t it? We keep identifying the problem then not fixing it. I can only assume contracts lock the price structures in?

Just endlessly punching ourselves in the balls since Thatcher while saying “there’s just no other way”

 

[shmmeee]

Asked ChatGPT for the rationale for marginal pricing and it basically spouted nonsense (what’s new) first saying uniform pricing ensures renewables return more profit and encouraging investment then saying uniform pricing ensures renewables don’t undercut other necessary sources.

 

[Macca]

I struggle to understand how making whoever inherits your estate pay inheritance tax after your death has any bearing whatsoever on your current ability to produce food. Can somebody explain?

Think it's more about passing the farm down to the next generation. I'm a cynic so I reckon the new IHT limits help the Government get hold of more farming land for house building. Given the rate of legoland expansion in Warwickshire stands a chance.

 

[MalcSB]

You can go as far as you like on red diesel as long as you're doing agricultural work - which protesting most certainly is not of course!

I’m sure a KC could argue that it is. In the farmers view, they might argue that they are protesting against something which could damage or even destroy U.K. agriculture. So they are doing agriculture related activity.

How do you know precisely what colour diesel they have in their tanks for their protest?

If they have a trailer full of manure, doing agricultural work as they are en route to doing some muck spreading, is there a law that says they must use the shortest route?

 

[MalcSB]

The quote I'd seen said "the best part of a decade" and to be fair to her, 6 years is the best part of a decade (i.e. the greater part). It's immaterial though anyway isn't it? Judge her on what she does not how long she said she'd worked somewhere.

Ah - the give Robins till the end of the season argument repackaged for a lying plagiarist.

 

[shmmeee]

Think it's more about passing the farm down to the next generation. I'm a cynic so I reckon the new IHT limits help the Government get hold of more farming land for house building. Given the rate of legoland expansion in Warwickshire stands a chance.

How would that work? Are they also planning a cull of farmers in the next five years?

The shit you guys believe

 

[Marty]

I'd love to work from home if I could, but those that can, should. The roads are so much clearer. I've been pushing for a 4 day week at my place for ages, not even reduced hours, I'll work the extra time equally across the 4 days, but management aren't interested. So backwards in this country. The mentality seems stuck as it was 50 years ago still.

 

[Captain Dart]

To who? We don’t even know if she did lie. The site auto updates the dates of employment for you half the time. Sorry but if this is the best you’ve got best to go back to your weird anti-vax rants.

I see you've lost the argument so you're deflecting by making things up again in your fantasy world of accusation.

More information about Reeves..

 

[PVA]

I’m sure a KC could argue that it is. In the farmers view, they might argue that they are protesting against something which could damage or even destroy U.K. agriculture. So they are doing agriculture related activity.

How do you know precisely what colour diesel they have in their tanks for their protest?

If they have a trailer full of manure, doing agricultural work as they are en route to doing some muck spreading, is there a law that says they must use the shortest route?

There is absolutely no way they could claim to be doing agricultural work by driving into Central London for a protest.

They all use red diesel, farmers are notoriously tight and there's no way they're filling up with white.

And no, there is no law stating what route they must take.

Inventing bizarre scenarios to defend breaking the law to continue your anti labour campaign now.

 

[chiefdave]

Think it's more about passing the farm down to the next generation.

Just had a quick google and as far as I can tell if that is your concern all you need is a bit of estate planning and you're all good. In fact it seems that you can hand the lot over to your kids 7 years or more before your death and no further questions will be asked.

On the other hand if you're someone with a load of money who has purchased a farm and openly admitted it was for tax avoidance purposes you might have a problem ...

 

[fernandopartridge]

Just had a quick google and as far as I can tell if that is your concern all you need is a bit of estate planning and you're all good. In fact it seems that you can hand the lot over to your kids 7 years or more before your death and no further questions will be asked.

On the other hand if you're someone with a load of money who has purchased a farm and openly admitted it was for tax avoidance purposes you might have a problem ...

Amazing how these impoverished farmers have managed to fund all of the campaign materials etc

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[Macca]

How would that work? Are they also planning a cull of farmers in the next five years?

The shit you guys believe

You guys?

 

[Macca]

Just had a quick google and as far as I can tell if that is your concern all you need is a bit of estate planning and you're all good. In fact it seems that you can hand the lot over to your kids 7 years or more before your death and no further questions will be asked.

On the other hand if you're someone with a load of money who has purchased a farm and openly admitted it was for tax avoidance purposes you might have a problem ...

Absolutely right though not always possible particularly when death is sudden. I fucking hate plastic "farmers" and happy to see them taxed to buggery but I have a fair bit to do with the farming community and to paint them all as wealthy entitled types (as per this thread) is a bit short sighted

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

We’ve just got the worst of all worlds. Tiny expensive houses. Poor public realm and public services. Shit wages and economy.

Footy and tea though, footy and tea.

I think we need you in charge of producing and distributing information in the areas the smuggling gangs operate.

 

[Mcbean]

Just had a quick google and as far as I can tell if that is your concern all you need is a bit of estate planning and you're all good. In fact it seems that you can hand the lot over to your kids 7 years or more before your death and no further questions will be asked.

On the other hand if you're someone with a load of money who has purchased a farm and openly admitted it was for tax avoidance purposes you might have a problem ...

Some of the problem lies in the fact that this was introduced with no notice and it doesn’t give those farmers who maybe don’t have 7 years left much time for planning - farmers are not known for retiring early - should they hand the farm down the requirement is that the main residence should be vacated and the receptor be the name on the door in layman’s terms and some just arnt ready for that. - it would be fairer to have given a longer period to introduce