Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Having worked in a similar industry I can assure you 5 years definitely feels like 10.
Having worked in a similar industry I can assure you 5 years definitely feels like 10.The quote I'd seen said "the best part of a decade" and to be fair to her, 6 years is the best part of a decade (i.e. the greater part). It's immaterial though anyway isn't it? Judge her on what she does not how long she said she'd worked somewhere.
To be honest, if that person is that bothered by the money and can get it in the City, then I'd prefer them to do that instead. The objective for that industry is make money. It is not the objective of government.In footballing terms do you want the player who has the talent to play for Man City but costs a lot and wants what he's worth, or the guy who's an electrician in the day and plays for Nuneaton, decent footballer, cares about his profession.
If the Man City guy doesn't get his offer, he doesn't go to Nuneaton, he goes to Saudi or the US. Similarly the prospective MP will work in the City if the MP salary doesn't stack up. They might be bothered and care but it's human to want to maximise earnings as no guarantee of reelection and like football could be a short career.
To be honest, if that person is that bothered by the money and can get it in the City, then I'd prefer them to do that instead. The objective for that industry is make money. It is not the objective of government.
Just because someone is a successful businessperson doesn't mean they'll be a successful, or even good, MP
Besides, MP's are largely the PR execs of a party/govt. It's the civil srervice where you want the actual brains.
Still puts them in the top 3% of earners for the whole country.£90k is not a great salary for a professional job in London. Not just City workers but anyone in tech, legal, pretty much anything.
It will be further to the green belt soon enough.You don't visit the countryside do you? Dont listen to others with possibly the same narrow perspective. Nip over to our green belt. You can't be far away.
Take a walk. Have a look & a think. Come back and tell us what you learnt ?
£90k is not a great salary for a professional job in London. Not just City workers but anyone in tech, legal, pretty much anything.
That’s as good an argument as the ones I was making about the use of red diesel to get the tractors to London for the farmers protest. I.e. not very.The quote I'd seen said "the best part of a decade" and to be fair to her, 6 years is the best part of a decade (i.e. the greater part). It's immaterial though anyway isn't it? Judge her on what she does not how long she said she'd worked somewhere.
Perhaps that’s part of the problem, may be the civil servants are far more intelligent than the politicians and have realised it and are acting accordingly,To be honest, if that person is that bothered by the money and can get it in the City, then I'd prefer them to do that instead. The objective for that industry is make money. It is not the objective of government.
Just because someone is a successful businessperson doesn't mean they'll be a successful, or even good, MP
Besides, MP's are largely the PR execs of a party/govt. It's the civil service where you want the actual brains.
Good point Malc.It will be further to the green belt soon enough.
Still puts them in the top 3% of earners for the whole country.
I don’t recall any politician before her even having a CV? By all means criticise her for her Policies but this pedantry over her so called CV is getting tedious. If that’s the biggest lie you can find in politics, you’re not looking very hard.
I don’t recall any politician before her even having a CV? By all means criticise her for her Policies but this pedantry over her so called CV is getting tedious. If that’s the biggest lie you can find in politics, you’re not looking very hard.
I don't disagree with you that the pay is shit in this country (should be another thing that is being hammered home to those willing to risk life and limb to get here) but aren't we fed up of politicians not having the same conditions as normal people - if everyone else's pay is crap why shouldn't theirs be? I always thought MP pay should be based on some sort of multiplier of an average wage of some description.The penny drops (sorry for the pun) when you look at the same jobs and their comparative salaries in other countries. The US is a good example. They can literally be double, triple, or even more than that for the same role.
I know some of us in here have actively talked about it, but I don't think the people of Great Britain have woken up to how low the pay is here. The cost of living crisis comes across as the reason half the time, or many other excuses. The cold hard truth is that people are actually just getting paid fuck all. Throw in the working conditions and tax rates, and it is a disgrace really.
I don't disagree with you that the pay is shit in this country (should be another thing that is being hammered home to those willing to risk life and limb to get here) but aren't we fed up of politicians not having the same conditions as normal people - if everyone else's pay is crap why shouldn't theirs be? I always thought MP pay should be based on some sort of multiplier of an average wage of some description.
And part of that problem is due to design by those in power, as wasn't the argument that higher wages will cause inflation? We've got governments cosying up to big business and letting them pay shit wages/reduce employee rights to increase profits, because the best thing is clearly shareholder return rather than everyone being paid what they're worth (and even if pay did increase you can guarantee most things (housing especially) would just increase by that amount or more anyway.
And the expenses are still pretty tidy as well as some other perks, like subsidised bars and a defined benefit pension.
The penny drops (sorry for the pun) when you look at the same jobs and their comparative salaries in other countries. The US is a good example. They can literally be double, triple, or even more than that for the same role.
I know some of us in here have actively talked about it, but I don't think the people of Great Britain have woken up to how low the pay is here. The cost of living crisis comes across as the reason half the time, or many other excuses. The cold hard truth is that people are actually just getting paid fuck all. Throw in the working conditions and tax rates, and it is a disgrace really.
I have a theory that it's because of the city of London and the inherent behaviours of companies associated with that.The penny drops (sorry for the pun) when you look at the same jobs and their comparative salaries in other countries. The US is a good example. They can literally be double, triple, or even more than that for the same role.
I know some of us in here have actively talked about it, but I don't think the people of Great Britain have woken up to how low the pay is here. The cost of living crisis comes across as the reason half the time, or many other excuses. The cold hard truth is that people are actually just getting paid fuck all. Throw in the working conditions and tax rates, and it is a disgrace really.
I was looking at US median salary and average health insurance payments last week. Their combined income tax and health insurance was a greater share of their pay than tax and NI is for somebody on an median salary in the UK.I maintain our taxes are not high. Talking to my GFs parents about their health insurance in NL and they pay out €400+ a month in insurance. We have that factored into our taxes. Take that out and out taxes are much lower than theirs. Same in the states though as you say the wages are much better there, but that’s the benefit of winning the economic lottery and not really comparable. Our biggest problems IMO are housing and energy, both of which are down to our obsession with privatisation and restrictive planning, far more than even the US who have publicly owned mail and water and some publicly owned energy.
Maybe more should unionise and negotiate for the higher pay and better conditions that tend to come with such arrangements.The penny drops (sorry for the pun) when you look at the same jobs and their comparative salaries in other countries. The US is a good example. They can literally be double, triple, or even more than that for the same role.
I know some of us in here have actively talked about it, but I don't think the people of Great Britain have woken up to how low the pay is here. The cost of living crisis comes across as the reason half the time, or many other excuses. The cold hard truth is that people are actually just getting paid fuck all. Throw in the working conditions and tax rates, and it is a disgrace really.
UNISON seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time passing resolutions supporting trans access to women's spaces.Maybe more should unionise and negotiate for the higher pay and better conditions that tend to come with such arrangements.
It's empirically proven that unionisation tends to lead to better pay and conditions. Probably why countless Tory governments have made it so hard for people to gain the right.UNISON seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time passing resolutions supporting trans access to women's spaces.
Train drivers. (I didn’t want to disappoint you£90k is not a great salary for a professional job in London. Not just City workers but anyone in tech, legal, pretty much anything.
My union did fuck all for me,It's empirically proven that unionisation tends to lead to better pay and conditions. Probably why countless Tory governments have made it so hard for people to gain the right.
Train drivers. (I didn’t want to disappoint you).
And more access to women’s spaces for trans?It's empirically proven that unionisation tends to lead to better pay and conditions. Probably why countless Tory governments have made it so hard for people to gain the right.
Transgender toilets and changing rooms seems to be a right wing battleground. Certainly not something I heard about once in 3 years as a union repAnd more access to women’s spaces for trans?
I hate to disappoint anybody, but it was apparently a body double not Britt that was dancing nude.It’s enough to make @lordsummerisle turn in his grave
Wicker Man actress Britt Ekland slams trigger warning for nude scene
Students taking a master's degree in folklore at the University of Hertfordshire have been told they can skip the classic 1973 film if they are worried about the 'depiction of nudity'.www.dailymail.co.uk
I hate to disappoint anybody, but it was apparently a body double not Britt that was dancing nude.
'70s Horror Movie Star Recalls Being Tricked By Nude Scene Body Double: "I Was Just Devastated"
The Wicker Man's nude scene was important.screenrant.com
Any actual evidence for this or just angry Facebook vibes?UNISON seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time passing resolutions supporting trans access to women's spaces.
Any actual evidence for this or just angry Facebook vibes?
My union did fuck all for me,
Our new buildings just have unisex toilets
What I mean is toilets you can lock that can be used by any genderMy daughter’s school had that, and no doors either. Lasted about two years before constant complaints from the girls made them out proper sex segregated toilets in.
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