I agree with the latter point. It's the same whenever people protest about removal of conditions, perks etc. because they don't have them. Surely they should be supported to maintain them, and then everybody campaigns for other areas to *gain* them too!
That being said, Covid has exposed certain benefits I hadn't thought of until now of the public sector. I work both private, and public. The private job has all-but evaporated (depended on funding, and the funding is going into rescuing projects already up and running, rather than new ones) whereas the public job is, at least, secure in its hours and pay, and tbf to senior management, they've managed the crisis very well, in my view.
I don't think, however, it's appropriate for pay rises this year as it is exceptional. What that money should be used for is funding additional jobs, re-training, and other areas that will be needed going forward. By all means, in normal circumstance it's been ludicrous that public sector pay has been frozen as long as it has, but we're not in normal times. Compared to my other job, I'm glad to have one at all atm!
And yes, I appreciate it's probably naive to expect funding for public benefit going forward but... you never know!
I agree with the latter point. It's the same whenever people protest about removal of conditions, perks etc. because they don't have them. Surely they should be supported to maintain them, and then everybody campaigns for other areas to *gain* them too!
That being said, Covid has exposed certain benefits I hadn't thought of until now of the public sector. I work both private, and public. The private job has all-but evaporated (depended on funding, and the funding is going into rescuing projects already up and running, rather than new ones) whereas the public job is, at least, secure in its hours and pay, and tbf to senior management, they've managed the crisis very well, in my view.
I don't think, however, it's appropriate for pay rises this year as it is exceptional. What that money should be used for is funding additional jobs, re-training, and other areas that will be needed going forward. By all means, in normal circumstance it's been ludicrous that public sector pay has been frozen as long as it has, but we're not in normal times. Compared to my other job, I'm glad to have one at all atm!
And yes, I appreciate it's probably naive to expect funding for public benefit going forward but... you never know!
As you've pointed out when the good times are here private enterprise is great but when they inevitably disappear and the money isn't there to be made that same enterprise goes into hiding to protect their own fortunes. Imagine if the entire economy were based on this and how much contraction and job losses there would be as they all run away from the sinking ship to save their own skins. Once again it's left to the public purse to steer that ship out of trouble, picking up the tab to stimulate growth and investment then the private enterprise come back out the woodwork and make money. Nationalised losses, privatised gains.
Now this isn't meant as some 'nationalise everything' rant. Both private and public provide opportunities to improve in various ways. It's more about those that extol the virtues of private enterprise and capitalism and how they should predominate everything cos it's great. If we had one downturn without much of a public sector to bail us out and get things moving the shitshow that would follow would be enormous.
Sunak's star is deffo ebbing, got owned left right and centre today in parliament.
been briefed against from within his own party as well. I wonder which bollock jowled Machiavellian Scotsman with a penchant for chisel could be behind that?
He doesn't help himself by being all style and no substance. Take the pretend future fund, the 400 mil earmarked for it actually works out at about 158 quid per person if there is as predicted an extra 2.6 million jobless
Question for the non-Tories on the thread, interested to know where people get their news from these days?
Politically I'd probably be classed as 'anyone but the Conservatives' having voted Green, Lib Dem and Labour at various points in the past. Finding that these days its a struggle to get decent news coverage. Don't particularly want to be in an echo chamber but not really a fan of how opinion is increasingly presented as fact.
Have previously been a reader of The Times, Independent, Guardian and The i but IMO they've all gone downhill. The choice seems to be between news that is so lacking in detail it fits in a tweet or rambling 2 hour podcasts with a very narrow subject matter and little objectivity.
Let’s see how this plays out
Sept 2015. Boris Johnson says he will lie in front of bulldozersI think he meant to say he'll lie in front of those bulldozers in the meaning of he'll stand there and tell fibs.
Well I'm shocked. Who would have guessed trickle down doesn't work and "tax cuts for rich people breed inequality without providing much of a boon to anyone else" & "such measures over the last 50 years only really benefited the individuals who were directly affected, and did little to promote jobs or growth."
Here's the paper for anyone interested:Fifty Years of Tax Cuts for Rich Didn’t Trickle Down, Study Says
Tax cuts for rich people breed inequality without providing much of a boon to anyone else, according to a study of the advanced world that could add to the case for the wealthy to bear more of the cost of the coronavirus pandemic.www.bloomberg.com
Well I'm shocked. Who would have guessed trickle down doesn't work and "tax cuts for rich people breed inequality without providing much of a boon to anyone else" & "such measures over the last 50 years only really benefited the individuals who were directly affected, and did little to promote jobs or growth."
Here's the paper for anyone interested:Fifty Years of Tax Cuts for Rich Didn’t Trickle Down, Study Says
Tax cuts for rich people breed inequality without providing much of a boon to anyone else, according to a study of the advanced world that could add to the case for the wealthy to bear more of the cost of the coronavirus pandemic.www.bloomberg.com
Let them eat cakeJacob Rees-Mogg accuses Unicef of 'playing politics' over UK food campaign
He says the charity should be "ashamed" after launching a campaign to feed UK children.www.bbc.co.uk
Totally clueless privileged idiot.
Not once does he think how come British kids even qualify for UNICEF help. The fact they do should be a wake up call that his parties policies of favouring the rich with tax cuts and cutting spending are causing huge inequality and social problems and need to be consigned to the dustbin of history as the failures they are. It's not UNICEF who should be ashamed - it's him.
But having been brought up in that life of privilege and wealth he of course can't be wrong. It must be everyone else.
Let them eat cake
Always wondered what the Latin for c*** is....Well he'd put it as
sit illis manducare libum
Tory MP sacked as aide after Le Carré-style sting to find leak
An extraordinary spy “sting” mounted by the Government Chief Whip has led to a Tory MP being sacked from his post as a ministerial aide.www.standard.co.uk
To be fair there's probably not much money left after we've paid nurses.Let them eat cake
Metro said:Four out of ten nurses helping Britain battle Covid-19 say they are so badly paid they go without meals or use food banks so their families can eat instead.
Jacob Rees-Mogg accuses Unicef of 'playing politics' over UK food campaign
He says the charity should be "ashamed" after launching a campaign to feed UK children.www.bbc.co.uk
Totally clueless privileged idiot.
Not once does he think how come British kids even qualify for UNICEF help. The fact they do should be a wake up call that his parties policies of favouring the rich with tax cuts and cutting spending are causing huge inequality and social problems and need to be consigned to the dustbin of history as the failures they are. It's not UNICEF who should be ashamed - it's him.
But having been brought up in that life of privilege and wealth he of course can't be wrong. It must be everyone else.
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