Yeah, he could struggle because of that and I’m sure the Tories will lay the Remainer stuff on thick. If we’re struggling because of Brexit (or more importantly it’s negatively impacting traditional Labour voting areas that voted Tory last time) then that might not cut through much though. I personally believe the next election will be played out more on competence and Johnson will be struggling unless he can turn things round sharpish
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Yeah, he could struggle because of that and I’m sure the Tories will lay the Remainer stuff on thick. If we’re struggling because of Brexit (or more importantly it’s negatively impacting traditional Labour voting areas that voted Tory last time) then that might not cut through much though. I personally believe the next election will be played out more on competence and Johnson will be struggling unless he can turn things round sharpish
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I doubt it'll be Johnson there by that time. Brexit also seems to be stuck in some kind of rut now, where some people will refuse to blame anything on it. And let's face it, if last election Dennis Skinner could be voted out because of Brexit, anything's fair game - if ever there was an MP who was more leave than the current PM, that was one. He'd have gladly voted for us to leave given the chance!
Best they can hope for next election, probably, is slashing the majority and having them and Lib Dems in position to claim seats to tip the balance the election after that - is a depressing thought, but it's too big a majority to turn around in one go, barring a catastrophe.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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That's the weirdest argument.
"We can't vote for these people to be in government because they're not already in it. The other lot may have fucked up everything since they've been in, but they're already in power and that's what really matters!"
Pretty disappointing/depressing all round really although maybe a little unfair on Truss, Reeves and Nandy who don’t come across too bad. Burnhams good but not an MP so you’d have to chuck in a Ben Houchen who’s apparently doing a decent job on Teeside.
I’ve said for a while there’s better representatives for both main parties than what’s on their front benches which in recent years have been dictated more by party politics/leader whims than what would be best for the country…thats just wrong in my book
Grendel
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No it’s because a lot of people are not living in the Dickensian poverty you portray but are just living a life they are comfortable with
Labour offers nothing to these people
Yeah, it is a big majority to turn around. Think there’s some small majorities though and these are strange times ! Agree it will need Lib Dem’s to pick up some traditional Tory seats and probably some kind of coalition/agreement
It will also need a proper positive vision for the future
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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My personal opinion is that the labour party have more unelectable members than the tories. The rest of the country seem to agree with me.
Granted, they are both pretty shite.
But many people are living in poverty and the Tories don't give a fuck (nor do you).
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Even if Labour offers nothing, it's still more than the Tories, who seem intent to take as much away from them as possible to protect the assets of those that have a lot more. And I'm sure if they felt they could get away with taking more and removing welfare etc. they'd do it in a heartbeat because they'd believe it'd just promote those idle people to be more self-reliant or some other such bollocks. For some of them a return to Dickensian Britain when Britain led the world on the exploitation of the lower classes is a wet dream. At least then the pesky proles knew their place!
Grendel
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skybluetony176
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Looks like Liz Truss’ supporters are jockeying her into position to challenge to be the next leader of the conservatives.
clint van damme
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You have to laugh or else you'd cry.
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Of course it would be ridiculous, but would it be any more so than what we currently have?
She is truly terrible. But you have to wonder if she might be the least shit option.
Nick
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Sorry
But I would though.
Filthy.
At last, a proper thought process in this thread.
Skybluefaz
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Hancock being caught out again.
Grendel
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clint van damme
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this is a far bigger story.
Ian1779
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Deflector shields set to maximum Captain…
Grendel
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It really isn’t. Maugham and Gina Miller are as bitter as fuck about Brexit - it’s only a bigger story if the wider population give a fuck and when it’s from a narcissist like Maugham they will not and don’t
Grendel
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I don’t need to deflect as no one in planet real world cares Ian - out of interest has Sir Keir told Angela about the reshuffle yet?
clint van damme
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Maughams opinion on brexit is irrelevant, he's exposed a minister with his hand in the till misappropriating taxpayers money, I thought youd be furious?
As for killing a fox, I wonder if he found it to be a sexual experience like our PM?
Yeah no one gives a fuck
Johnson's party loses UK opinion poll lead after sleaze scandal
Boris Johnson's Conservatives have lost their lead in two opinion polls after a growing parliamentary standards scandal prompted almost two thirds of respondents in one survey to say the British prime minister's party was disreputable.
Grendel
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So this is a criminal matter - is a prosecution pending?
clint van damme
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Fingers crossed.
Grendel
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no then - just more sabre rattling from a bitter man in a kimono
clint van damme
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I'm surprised at your flippant attitude to the misuse of public money.
And Blairs never appeared in the Hague but I think we both agree he's still a war criminal.
skybluetony176
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“Mr Johnson said he “loved” hunting with dogs, in part because of the “semi-sexual relation with the horse”
If Hancock being caught with his hands in the till (again) isn't enough to rile up Grendel, how about the story about the Downing Street Christmas party when everyone else was locked down?
If/when the evidence comes out that's going to really damage him (or it should).
If/when the evidence comes out that's going to really damage him (or it should).
Grendel
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No I think The Hague nonsense was juvenile left wing sixth form drivel and always have
Do you want to discuss boring politics?
You can’t go on about Cummings being a reflection of how bad it is and then defend Johnson, it’s nonsense. Imagine your response if Corbyn had overseen the highest amount of Covid deaths in Europe. 10 countries in Europe have worse deaths per one hundred thousand than the U.K. should those...
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