Do you want to discuss boring politics? (13 Viewers)

[Deleted member 4439]

Was thinking similar to that myself. It's almost as if the time Jean thinks she's living in is the end of time. Sounds a bit like the prevailing boomer outlook.

Mistaking power and institutional authority with identity rather than class? If you want to play that game, surely Gex X are running most things by now? Most boomers are retired or in nursing homes or dead, and hardly all-responsible for the 'prevailing' outlook.

 

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[shmmeee]

Mistaking power and institutional authority with identity rather than class? If you want to play that game, surely Gex X are running most things by now? Most boomers are retired or in nursing homes or dead, and hardly all-responsible for the 'prevailing' outlook.

Most Gen X seem to have been rolled into either Boomers or Millenials. I’m classed as Millenial despite being 19 at the turn of the century.

 

[Evo1883]

When I first came across this I was pretty shocked. And whilst I don't think I'm going to give jingo jean any credit, I did think back to my dna results that showed that I was 'technically only 10 percent English even though I, my parents and grandparents were both born in England.

As one poster has said on YT, perhaps there was a confusion of ethnicity, culture and citizenship (appreciate that British is citizenship, not English).

Cant stand Lammy ...but he's English.

Whenever people ask me where I'm from my natural instinct is to say Britain , used to get asked alot when on tour or exercise with the army.

British English whatever don't matter to me .

I looked at social media after this interview and saw many people describing their nationality and I must say even they seem somewhat confused.

I'm quarter Welsh, born in England.
So reality is I'm English.

Ben stokes is a kiwi .
Raheem Sterling is Jamaican

It's a very simple concept tbh

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Cant stand Lammy ...but he's English.

Whenever people ask me where I'm from my natural instinct is to say Britain , used to get asked alot when on tour or exercise with the army.

British English whatever don't matter to me .

I looked at social media after this interview and saw many people describing their nationality and I must say even they seem somewhat confused.

I'm quarter Welsh, born in England.
So reality is I'm English.

Ben stokes is a kiwi .
Raheem Sterling is Jamaican

It's a very simple concept tbh

Yes, my natural inclination is to say that, for what it matters, your 'nationality' is the country into which you are born.

And btw, not a fan of Lammy either.

 

[TomRad85]

Yes, my natural inclination is to say that, for what it matters, your 'nationality' is the country into which you are born.

And btw, not a fan of Lammy either.

Actually I'd say it's down to the individual on how they feel. My wife was born in England, a lot of her ways are very English if you like, but she sees me as English and herself as Turkish Cypriot.

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[Evo1883]

Yes, my natural inclination is to say that, for what it matters, your 'nationality' is the country into which you are born.

And btw, not a fan of Lammy either.

I can see why people get confused though Or struggle .

My cousins were born in the USA, to English parents several months after moving there .

They class themselves as English, but really what are they ? American or English..I'm enclined to say American

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Most Gen X seem to have been rolled into either Boomers or Millenials. I’m classed as Millenial despite being 19 at the turn of the century.

Yes, the greatest misappropriation of our times was when Billy Idol called his band Gen X, the big boomer.

 

[TomRad85]

I’m classed as Millenial despite being 19 at the turn of the century.

The big 4-0 this year mate. What's your midlife crisis purchase of choice?

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[Evo1883]

Equally my partner is Welsh ..I'm English.

Kids born in England
Technically they have more Welsh blood as I'm quarter Welsh.
How do I win this fight when it comes to sport ?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Actually I'd say it's down to the individual on how they feel. My wife was born in England, a lot of her ways are very English if you like, but she sees me as English and herself as Turkish Cypriot.

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Yup. Place of birth is fluke, identity is something else.

 

[shmmeee]

The big 4-0 this year mate. What's your midlife crisis purchase of choice?

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My own house hopefully

 

[Evo1883]

My own house hopefully

Some lovely houses for sale in hillfields , prior deram walk and Jardine crescent mate ... should have a look

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Give or take.....

Boomers: post WW2 - 1964.
Gen X: 65-80
Gen Y: 81- 96 (Millenials)
Gen Z: 97- 2012
Gen Alpha: 2013 - now


I'm Gen X....although prefer Generation RAVE.

Rave On.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Same as sex and gender really. Your sex is a


There is a difference between nationality and identity. One is legal or factual, the other is felt? Like sex and gender? Not saying, just musing.

What would you call David Phillips though? He sure ain't German. Not convinced Cliff Richard is Indian, either.

 

[TomRad85]

Yup. Place of birth is fluke, identity is something else.

Indeed. My son, who we're expecting to arrive late July will be half English, half Turkish. He won't be 100% English just because he was born here. He may feel more culturally English (probably not as my wife's family will probably be all over us when he arrives) but that won't change what he is. Which is fine, I want him to be proud of being both English and Turkish, I also want him to speak both languages. The only Turkish I know is how to insult someone or how to ask them if they want some watermelon.

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[TomRad85]

My own house hopefully

Maybe the Ferrari will have to wait for the big 5-0 then.

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[Evo1883]

What would you call David Phillips though? He sure ain't German. Not convinced Cliff Richard is Indian, either.

Cliff lived in India for the first 8 years of his life .
I mean really he's as Indian as any migrant child born here is English.

Also , isn't that basically what the caller said to lammy , I mean they used similar logic

 

[Deleted member 4439]

Indeed. My son, who we're expecting to arrive late July will be half English, half Turkish. He won't be 100% English just because he was born here. He may feel more culturally English (probably not as my wife's family will probably be all over us when he arrives) but that won't change what he is. Which is fine, I want him to be proud of being both English and Turkish, I also want him to speak both languages. The only Turkish I know is how to insult someone or how to ask them if they want some watermelon.

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Spent more than a year travelling through Turkey, back in 85. I don't know whether it's still the same, but my abiding memory of the country is the hospitality and friendliness of its people.

(Was a bit different on the Kurdish Western side, but I understand why that might be).

 

[Evo1883]

Spent 6 months in Cyprus, lovely place ..well it was back then I'd hope it still was now

We used to deliver food packages to the poorer people living in the North

 

[TomRad85]

Spent more than a year travelling through Turkey, back in 85. I don't know whether it's still the same, but my abiding memory of the country is the hospitality and friendliness of its people.

(Was a bit different on the Kurdish Western side, but I understand why that might be).

Yes without wishing to get into any of the politics of the country, the parts you would visit the people are lovely yes.

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[TomRad85]

Spent 6 months in Cyprus, lovely place ..well it was back then I'd hope it still was now

We used to deliver food packages to the poorer people living in the North

Again, don't want to get into the politics of that country either haha, it would be better if the Greeks and the Turks would just chill. But its a lovely country, we go every year.

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[wingy]

Maybe the Ferrari will have to wait for the big 5-0 then.

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Wait till you're 55 and cash that pension in .

 

[Evo1883]

Again, don't want to get into the politics of that country either haha, it would be better if the Greeks and the Turks would just chill. But its a lovely country, we go every year.

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Well I spent many night stagging on the buffer zone ... pretty much always peaceful and a bit of a pointless tour but great for the sun

Our OP was literally in the edge of Nicosia overlooking the mountain with the Turkish flag on it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The big 4-0 this year mate. What's your midlife crisis purchase of choice?

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I’m handling mine at 30 by ordering a crate of German sausages. Not all of them for eating.

 

[TomRad85]

Well I spent many night stagging on the buffer zone ... pretty much always peaceful and a bit of a pointless tour but great for the sun

Our OP was literally in the edge of Nicosia overlooking the mountain with the Turkish flag on it

I love the flag on the mountain tbh, top trolling.

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[Evo1883]

I love the flag on the mountain tbh, top trolling.

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This is one of the 3 OPS we used to stag on at , its abandoned now .

 

[Evo1883]

And this is basically the location we were at ...I terms of view from the OPS

 

[Evo1883]

There's also an abandoned city in the North of Cyprus isn't there ?

Famagusta

The drive down the buffer zone is sad in a way ...mostly abandoned bullet hole ridden houses..People lost lives and memories .


I'd love to go back to visit again tbh ..it's been 17 years

 

[TomRad85]

There's also an abandoned city in the North of Cyprus isn't there ?

Famagusta

Not Famagusta itself, I've been into Famagusta many a time. Its Varosha which is like a suburb of Famagusta I suppose. Apparently it was an absolute paradise. Rumours are that it may reopen, but no doubt someone will make it awkward and it won't end up happening.

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[TomRad85]

I’m handling mine at 30 by ordering a crate of German sausages. Not all of them for eating.

Does Mrs BSB know, or is she involved?

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[Deleted member 5849]

Indeed. My son, who we're expecting to arrive late July will be half English, half Turkish. He won't be 100% English just because he was born here. He may feel more culturally English (probably not as my wife's family will probably be all over us when he arrives) but that won't change what he is. Which is fine, I want him to be proud of being both English and Turkish, I also want him to speak both languages. The only Turkish I know is how to insult someone or how to ask them if they want some watermelon.

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Don't combine the two, unless you want to become an insult pioneer!

 

[Deleted member 4439]

This thread is also going to now go the way of flag-shagging, isn't it?

 

[TomRad85]

Don't combine the two, unless you want to become an insult pioneer!

Telling someone that I fucked their watermelon would be more of a self own I think.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Does Mrs BSB know, or is she involved?

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It’s a surprise

 

[wingy]

Don't combine the two, unless you want to become an insult pioneer!

Tut tut tut.
Seedy .

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