It's well known that they targeted student heavy areas but hey, keep picking the isolated to prove the trend. Liberals have always been prepared to shimmy after all.Yes I’m sure many Lib Dems in the south would prefer labour to Tory
Kevin Maton to be council member for the Tories?
Next mayor isn’t he
Do you remember when city signed a chinese takeawayHow many people here at a work place have cracked open the beers had a Ruby then “got back to work”?
Approaching 500 seats lost for the Tories now.
No matter what Grendel says that is a total pasting.
how many seats have labour won? It’s an irrelevance
Some of itSo you rather liked the Tory Lib Dem alliance?
Just send the comet now.Kevin Maton to be council member for the Tories?
Really? So when's that landslip of mud Johnson wallows in going to stick to him?The reality is the public will now see Starmer as a liar whatever the actual outcome - mud sticks
If rules were broken I would expect Starmer to quit, just as Johnson should have but unsurprisingly didn't. But no-one cares about parties do they?The rather dreadful Angela Thornberry pretty much said on Five Live the same as that toe rag Khan - namely you can’t compare these events as Starmer only did it once anyway
Awesome so as long as the murderer isn’t a serial killer you can take the high ground?
God knows how you've come to that conclusion.Is it not the case that the Durham police have admitted that they in fact did not release this influenced voters? Staggering
Also as I’ve said Durham say they don’t take retrospective action against FPN offenders
In other words if Johnson ate his cake in Barnard Castle and was not caught at the time he’d have nothing but at worst a ticking off
I am getting the disturbing view the Met especially are playing politics and see labour as a much more preferable party than Patel and co
Disturbing times
Given who much our current govt got steamrollered in EU negotiations I wouldn't be so sure about dictating those hard terms.You said it but it’s rubbish as it won’t happen
The English government terms will be clear - WTO hard border Visa requirements no currency all on day one
There is zero chance wales would want it ever and if Scotland opt for it at least 48 out of 100 wouldn’t - but hey pound gone that day, WTO that day - work in England? Get a visa or find a job in your promised land. No subsidies no money - sounds fun
He has a point - look at those people in Hartlepool for example blaming Labour for the local facilities being decimated even though they were only constituency MP’s and not controlling council budgets.Really? So when's that landslip of mud Johnson wallows in going to stick to him?
He said mud sticks. Fact is that isn't universally true.He has a point - look at those people in Hartlepool for example blaming Labour for the local facilities being decimated even though they were only constituency MP’s and not controlling council budgets.
You can’t reason with people that believe the bullshit pumped out verbatim.
It’s not all the public to be fair but they do seem to reside in the places Labour needs to win.
It has stuck because the narrative has allowed it to stick. We may not have seen it nationally but that misinformation will have been spread locally and deliberately.He said mud sticks. Fact is that isn't universally true.
More precisely it sticks to Labour councillors etc. who are hamstrung by Tory budget decisions while actual Tories with actual power can get away with repeatedly breaking their own rules without consequence.
It has stuck because the narrative has allowed it to stick. We may not have seen it nationally but that misinformation will have been spread locally and deliberately.
If the same happens nationally it will be difficult to shed - even if he is totally innocent.
This is the control and influence that exists through the media… they know exactly what they are doing.
Good old Laura K's story about the locals on the BBC website is a work of pure fiction that is actually so bad it's good
Good old Laura K's story about the locals on the BBC website is a work of pure fiction that is actually so bad it's good
BrilliantJust for balance.
It's a modern day Greek tragedy all round, to be honest with everyone.
They’re not really ‘doing it’ are they - more validly pointing out that this could create a problem with a press and government full of grifters, liars and shysters.Got several “left wing” people in this thread doing it. It’s not right wing media, both sides expect Labour to be perfect to be worth voting for.
Tories are the default and Labour have to be everything to everyone to be worth a shot.
God knows how you've come to that conclusion.
The same police force who did everything it could to not investigate Johnson and the Tories? The same force who wouldn't release details of who'd been fined in case it 'influenced voters'? That's exactly the point - voters should have the information to make an informed decision about who they're voting for. Anf the same force who are now looking into Starmer with seemingly much less to go on than when they steadfastly refused to investigate Johnson? And your worry is that they're Labour!
Got several “left wing” people in this thread doing it. It’s not right wing media, both sides expect Labour to be perfect to be worth voting for.
Tories are the default and Labour have to be everything to everyone to be worth a shot.
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