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Deleted member 4439 · Apr 18, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Of course. More permanent and full time work though as opposed to the zero hour, temporary and part time fare that forms a bigger bulk of the economy than it did then. And just FYI I hardly use social media either.

Ah, life was so much easier and better back then. At 17 I got a job working on the production line at Chrysler Peugeot - great fun, you should try it, especially working the welding machines. I was made redundant two years later.

A year later, during the 80s recession, I managed to get onto a forty-eight quid-a-week Youth Opportunities scheme, planting trees.

As there were no jobs after that, I went travelling the world for two years, working as I travelled. When I got back I got a job in a warehouse, working night shift. Having self-funded and successfully studied for a degree whilst in full-time work, I then further self-funded a full-time degree, whilst also taking in lodgers to help keep my mortgage. I then successfully entered into national competitions for stipends and funding for higher degrees.

Nobody helped me, I got off my arse and did it. Yes, the lack of good, solid jobs for the working class is an issue, but you're going back to the fifties and early sixties to re-live that world.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
First year didn't count for me either, I worked hard in that year, carried it over from A Levels.

Second year I belatedly found wine, women, and song.

Got it the wrong way round!

I still put the work in for both years, had afternoon labs 3 times a week even in first year! Then when honours kicked off we'd have 20 hours of labs a week and 15 hours of lectures-still degrees now are a piece of piss with no academic integrity

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2021

dubed said:
Ah, life was so much easier and better back then. At 17 I got a job working on the production line at Chrysler Peugeot - great fun, you should try it, especially working the welding machines. I was made redundant two years later.

A year later, during the 80s recession, I managed to get onto a forty-eight quid-a-week Youth Opportunities scheme, planting trees.

As there were no jobs after that, I went travelling the world for two years, working as I travelled. When I got back I got a job in a warehouse, working night shift. Having successfully (paid for and) studied for a degree whilst in full-time work, I then further self-funded a full-time degree, whilst also taking in lodgers to help keep my mortgage. I then successfully entered into national competitions for stipends and funding for higher degrees.

Nobody helped me, I got off my arse and did it. Yes, the lack of good, solid jobs for the working class is an issue, but you're going back to the fifties and early sixties to re-live that world.

My Dad borrowed money off his old man to start a video rental trolley business in Cov around that time, then took an HND at the Lanch to get into IT and sales where he still is. You do realise, right, that commenting on the difficulties of a young person finding work right now doesn't mean that I think everything before was a piece of piss.

Apprenticeships now are a tool to hire people for practically nothing with little real intention of taking them on after they're done, and the workforce is genuinely shifted in favour of less secure and less financially stable work. Then of course here we are as a divided workforce taking swipes at each other when the real enemies are those above.

PVA · Apr 18, 2021

dubed said:
Nobody helped me, I got off my arse and did it. Yes, the lack of good, solid jobs for the working class is an issue, but you're going back to the fifties and early sixties to re-live that world.

And there's the spite again.

You had it tough so God forbid the youth of today have an easier time of it.

Get them back in the mines and the mills like the good old days eh.

stupot07 · Apr 18, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I still put the work in for both years, had afternoon labs 3 times a week even in first year! Then when honours kicked off we'd have 20 hours of labs a week and 15 hours of lectures-still degrees now are a piece of piss with no academic integrity

Very similar to my degree, plus all the reading and assignments you're expected to do.

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Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2021

stupot07 said:
Very similar to my degree, plus all the reading and assignments you're expected to do.

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One year of my course was spent working in industry alongside distance learning modules, then the final year was a lab-based research project plus a full complement of lectures. Still, all degrees now pale in comparison to those of the 80s right

Grendel · Apr 18, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
One year of my course was spent working in industry alongside distance learning modules, then the final year was a lab-based research project plus a full complement of lectures. Still, all degrees now pale in comparison to those of the 80s right

No all don’t but many many do with little contact time

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2021

Grendel said:
No all don’t but many many do with little contact time

At least that's something but contact time has been traditionally low in humanities and arts subjects for as long as they've existed

Grendel · Apr 18, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
At least that's something but contact time has been traditionally low in humanities and arts subjects for as long as they've existed

I had 22 hours a week - one of my children in reality was 5 hours

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 18, 2021

Grendel said:
No all don’t but many many do with little contact time

Yeah as I said once before, I did my degree at a university where the course was rated fourth in the country at the time, after Oxford, Cambridge... Warwick (I think). That was mainly because of its stellar research ratings. Shame that meant no bugger was about to actually do any teaching!

But that wasn't now, either.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2021

dubed said:
I heartily agree, regards both the almost total collapse of decent, secure employment (which has been happening in the Western economies since the turn of the seventies) and the fact that intergenerational politics serves only those who seek to exploit us.

Agree on that.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2021

Grendel said:
I had 22 hours a week

Yours was something in the middle though, not quite humanities not quite science. I had 35 hours a week, Mrs BSB doing pure humanities had barely 10 but was writing a few essays a week.

shmmeee · Apr 19, 2021

Always fun to hear about academic integrity from someone who can’t spell “their” consistently and works in Marketing, the hairdressing of office jobs.

hill83 · Apr 19, 2021

Let's all fall for it and get in a argument with each other again about who had it worse, while in reality we are all getting bent over.

Philosoraptor · Apr 19, 2021

Meanwhile in Bath.

shmmeee · Apr 19, 2021

Philosorapter said:
Meanwhile in Bath.

He seems normal

Jamesimus · Apr 19, 2021

shmmeee said:
He seems normal

I'm guessing this pub landlord is some sort of Covid / lockdown denier?

Skybluefaz · Apr 19, 2021

Jamesimus said:
I'm guessing this pub landlord is some sort of Covid / lockdown denier?

Here he is moments earlier.

Jamesimus · Apr 19, 2021

Skybluefaz said:
Here he is moments earlier.

Haha could see that coming!

clint van damme · Apr 19, 2021

Please tell me this lib dem PP broadcast thats on at the moment is a spoof?

David O'Day · Apr 19, 2021

Jamesimus said:
Haha could see that coming!

I'm quite enjoying the pubs co-owner trying to fire fight and distance himself from his partner

chiefdave · Apr 19, 2021

Jamesimus said:
I'm guessing this pub landlord is some sort of Covid / lockdown denier?

Surely the Labour Party have a PR team who should be checking this sort of thing out in advance?

Ian1779 · Apr 19, 2021

Kier giving out some to landlords is nice to see. Not the right type of landlord mind you, but it’s a start.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 19, 2021

Ian1779 said:
Kier giving out some to landlords is nice to see. Not the right type of landlord mind you, but it’s a start.

Didn't he break the rules going inside?

skybluetony176 · Apr 19, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Didn't he break the rules going inside?

He ordered a scotch egg so it’s cool.

Ian1779 · Apr 19, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Didn't he break the rules going inside?

Dunno to be honest.... I don’t think Starmer has done anything wrong here... but what I will say his ‘team’ of advisers have dropped another absolute clanger which is about the 6th time in a month.
He needs some new people round him and fast.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 19, 2021

skybluetony176 said:
He ordered a scotch egg so it’s cool.

Top quote from a dear Tory

'You can't knock the Tories for it being clear what they're about...Brexit, anti-immigration, strong policing'

The individual in question is Asian and didn't respond to the 10,000 strong drop in police numbers under Tory rule. Questioned on our impressive death rate we got

'Well Corbyn would've given all our vaccines to poor countries'

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 19, 2021

Ian1779 said:
Dunno to be honest.... I don’t think Starmer has done anything wrong here... but what I will say his ‘team’ of advisers have dropped another absolute clanger which is about the 6th time in a month.
He needs some new people round him and fast.

I thought you were only allowed in if going to the loo?

Ian1779 · Apr 19, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I thought you were only allowed in if going to the loo?

You might be right, but they are bending the rules all over. Didn’t Boris get snapped last week in a cafe having a meeting and some food?
Its obviously that Parliamentary Privilege we hear about.

oakey · Apr 20, 2021

I want to see more of this from Starmer.
Take no shit from anyone
Put some stick about.
No nuance or fence sitting.
People respect it even if they disagree. Being mealy mouthed will get him nowhere

shmmeee · Apr 20, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 20, 2021

Ian1779 said:
You might be right, but they are bending the rules all over. Didn’t Boris get snapped last week in a cafe having a meeting and some food?
Its obviously that Parliamentary Privilege we hear about.

Yeah but that was to throw a pudding in someone’s face and add 5 seats to his majority

stupot07 · Apr 20, 2021

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Skybluefaz · Apr 20, 2021

shmmeee said:

What a fucking idiot Humphris is. Too many cunts like him around.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 20, 2021

shmmeee said:

Ah, a nutter

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