Guess the question is ,was it her abstention on that vote that did for her?
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TBH with you, the wallpaper story has neatly sidelined the more blatant and obvious corruption of Cameron and Greensill
The other way round, surely? DUP make the Tories look like the social democratic liberals.
Labour 11 points behind nationally and in the Wales/Midlands area Labour is a whopping 21 points behind.
'Playing politics'
Staggering really when you consider the last year , and when you consider recent goings on .
Labour really are in the mud
I don't know how they are ever going to get back in power it's a bit worrying really living in a 1 party state
Staggering really when you consider the last year , and when you consider recent goings on .
Labour really are in the mud
But Tories do good PR. Vaccine programme doing well means 18 months of mismanagement, corruption and lying get forgotten.
I see already they're preparing the general public for the next 'Tories are great' story by having "biggest ever predicted growth" stories flying about, when with even a small amount of brainpower tells you that after the massive contraction we had due to the monumental fuck up we made with covid you'd have to be a special kind of inept for it not to be the highest growth year-on-year.
Which I guess brings us back to the unresolved discussion from the other day about why people vote for a party that is not in their best interests.Staggering really when you consider the last year , and when you consider recent goings on .
Labour really are in the mud
I don't know how they are ever going to get back in power it's a bit worrying really living in a 1 party state
Which I guess brings us back to the unresolved discussion from the other day about why people vote for a party that is not in their best interests.
Think all we got was that workers were 'aspirational' but even that couldn't be qualified and it was only a few posts before huge chunks of the electorate were being excluded from that.
Not really.
The only people pushing this are the far left and the right, which should tell you all you need to know.
Been saying for over a year not to expect that 40+% to drop for the Tories. Opening up. Vaccines. Brexit delivered just a few months ago. PM with the biggest cult following of any politician in recent memory given daily press briefings while the LOTO isn’t allowed out of his room and any criticism is “doing them down during a pandemic”.
There’s signs the Tory vote is starting to soften, it’ll go Green and LD first, people don’t generally switch between the big two directly. Starmer is only just at a point where he can actually criticise Johnson without being told he’s pro-virus or something. Long way to go yet.
You don’t recover from the biggest post war defeat in a day. Currently Labour stand to take 20 seats off the Tories if polls stay the same:
But Tories do good PR. Vaccine programme doing well means 18 months of mismanagement, corruption and lying get forgotten.
I see already they're preparing the general public for the next 'Tories are great' story by having "biggest ever predicted growth" stories flying about, when with even a small amount of brainpower tells you that after the massive contraction we had due to the monumental fuck up we made with covid you'd have to be a special kind of inept for it not to be the highest growth year-on-year.
well that's becuz the working class is just abit thick, innit.
I find it genuinely fascinating. Just after the last election was reading an article on research from the University of Manchester where they had for several years been tracking peoples voting intention but also their responses to various policy areas.Oh god I'd rather stay away from that discussion today
The upshot was the way people vote doesn't line up with what they want the government to do.
I find it genuinely fascinating. Just after the last election was reading an article on research from the University of Manchester where they had for several years been tracking peoples voting intention but also their responses to various policy areas.
The upshot was the way people vote doesn't line up with what they want the government to do. Perhaps unexpectedly the largest beneficiaries if people did vote for the party most aligned with them was the Greens. Of course you could argue that at least in part the Greens, and other similar sized parties, lose votes due to our FPTP system and people believing it to be a wasted vote.
There has to be a reason and I don't believe its 'voters are stupid'. So what is it?
Absolutely. I posted in here a few weeks ago about the Hartlepool by-election.
They polled Hartlepool residents on what policies they want and then on which party they would vote for.
The majority wanted left leaning policies and/or the exact opposite of what the Tories are doing... and then said they'd vote Tory.
You see, thick as pigshit them working class.
Not really.
The only people pushing this are the far left and the right, which should tell you all you need to know.
Been saying for over a year not to expect that 40+% to drop for the Tories. Opening up. Vaccines. Brexit delivered just a few months ago. PM with the biggest cult following of any politician in recent memory given daily press briefings while the LOTO isn’t allowed out of his room and any criticism is “doing them down during a pandemic”.
There’s signs the Tory vote is starting to soften, it’ll go Green and LD first, people don’t generally switch between the big two directly. Starmer is only just at a point where he can actually criticise Johnson without being told he’s pro-virus or something. Long way to go yet.
You don’t recover from the biggest post war defeat in a day. Currently Labour stand to take 20 seats off the Tories if polls stay the same:
You see, thick as pigshit them working class.
Other than PVA
Sorry, I'll rephrase then, presumably to something more in keeping with your daily posts on the subject.
The working class are intelligent enough to know that Labour is unelectable.
People wouldn’t vote for greens - you are confusing liking policies but believing the government can do an effective job
Wasn't for a second suggesting everyone is about to vote Green, or even that they should. But its very odd that people who seem to favour polices diametrically opposed to Conservative policies vote for them.People wouldn’t vote for greens - you are confusing liking policies but believing the government can do an effective job
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