Ian1779
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Where was his? It’s all relative to the user network you find yourself in surely??
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Grendel
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Tories win at 39 and over and the demographic hasn’t changed which suggests when you reach that age your allegiance switches
Evo1883
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The scale at which this is happening though , which was my original point ... is far more prominent with the younger left
Skybluefaz
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Over 65s 'more likely' to share fake news on Facebook
A study found age was the best predictor of whether someone would pass around dodgy news stories.
www.bbc.com
I mean it's a 5 second Google but. For the record, I believe it's not necessarily an intelligence/common sense thing. Just a by product of not growing up with technology.
Grendel
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Well I have shown links to prove he’s talking nonsense
Ian1779
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Is it? Proportionally based on total users you could argue that is not true.
You've completely ignored the link I posted which showed you're talking shit. Again.
Skybluefaz has just posted another.
Not doing very well on your facts and fallacies today are you.
So you are OK with it. Good for you.
Grendel
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Over 65s 'more likely' to share fake news on Facebook
A study found age was the best predictor of whether someone would pass around dodgy news stories.
I mean it's a 5 second Google but. For the record, I believe it's not necessarily an intelligence/common sense thing. Just a by product of not growing up with technology.
That’s the US and actually it debunks the truth as hardly anyone does - the link says hardly anyone does
Evo1883
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Doesn't matter to me ..
Some people seem completely unable to accept the problems that are causing Labour to keep losing their core voters
And that's a trend that goes from the normal people like me and you right the way up to the people at the very top.
Not arsed, but don't expect Change anytime soon
Some people seem completely unable to accept the problems that are causing Labour to keep losing their core voters
And that's a trend that goes from the normal people like me and you right the way up to the people at the very top.
Not arsed, but don't expect Change anytime soon
You're really good at missing the point.
Brighton Sky Blue
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My point is if you held the election with just those 18-50, Labour wins. 50+ and the Tories win and that age group turns out more to vote so they will tend to win unless there is a surge in youth turnout. We'll see where I am in 9 years I suppose.
And that's why we are where we are, with the government stealing taxpayers money in front of our eyes and no one gives a shit.
Brighton Sky Blue
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From where I'm standing Evo it doesn't matter what they do, there's always some reason people find not to vote for them. Whereas no matter what the Conservatives do they'll get elected. Labour seem disliked whether they've got a genuine left winger as leader, an Oxbridge graduate, or a former lawyer with a knighthood. Or whether they push for left wing economic policies or more centrist ones, more left wing social platforms or more centrist ones, none of it seems to matter.
So what are they meant to do? Genuine question.
Evo1883
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Can't just be me and my circle, but when I speak to people at work, people on my street etc ..
People just do not like Labour anymore , always saying things like .
I always voted Labour, not anymore ...etc etc .
Mind you , certain parts of Coventry are now genuine SHIT HOLES and that's on Labour...so I can see partly why they feel the way they do
People just do not like Labour anymore , always saying things like .
I always voted Labour, not anymore ...etc etc .
Mind you , certain parts of Coventry are now genuine SHIT HOLES and that's on Labour...so I can see partly why they feel the way they do
mrtrench
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This may not be true this time... I think it may move to be later in life. Young people aren't getting married and having kids in their early 20s any more. Many are still living with their parents and playing computer games long after you and I were independent with responsibilities. I think that might change the dynamic.
Evo1883
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maybe Britain really is just a centre right country and that's that
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well the polling (on policies, not parties or identity) says the exact opposite. Same in the USA.
Grendel
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Anyway I hope Mr Starmer loses Hartlepool and he goes
I’m then campaigning the senile fools on Facebook to vote for PVA and have The Tonester as his deputy and Dreamer as communications strategist
That will definitely achieve exactly where I want the Labour Party to be
I’m then campaigning the senile fools on Facebook to vote for PVA and have The Tonester as his deputy and Dreamer as communications strategist
That will definitely achieve exactly where I want the Labour Party to be
Evo1883
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Well who are they polling because the centre right party keeps winning over here
Grendel
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Policies are irrelevant we’ve been here before
We're going over old ground here but it STILL hasn't been answered.
Not voting wanting to vote for Labour is fine.
But STILL nobody can answer what's then so appealing about voting Tory.
Ian1779
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But that’s a completely different argument to the national picture. Labour have served the area at both national MP and local council area for many years, so if there is dis-satisfaction you can see why it would manifest itself that way.
The biggest con the Tories managed in the Red-Wall seats was convincing normal people that the failure to invest in their areas and regions was the fault of the oppostion MP’s that represented them and not the incumbent government that actually made all the decisions.
Still ignoring my post that proved you wrong I see.
Though you are one of the senile old fools you're referring to I suppose.
Brighton Sky Blue
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These are polls of the general public from the 2019 election. As I keep saying to you, on policy preferences the public is not centre right.
Then you look at polls on perceptions of the parties
Brighton Sky Blue
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We have been, but I was addressing the idea that the British public are inherently centre right. Perception is trumping the policy substance you claim to care about
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Thing I find hard to tally in that is that Con voters are so out of step with public opinion overall, but as Tories have a good majority you're left wondering how on earth can that many people disagree with them yet they win.
Only things I can come up with is lower turnout of people with those beliefs and those opinions being split between a number of parties (Lab/LD/Green/SNP to a degree etc) whereas those who don't tend to just get behind Tories as other right wing parties like UKIP/BNP etc don't tend to get quite the same, certainly in GE.
Take your pick. Every little 'fact' you've come up with this morning has proven to be rubbish. Especially the one about Facebook age groups.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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As are many parties. The proper hardcore element of the woke brigade surely must follow the Greens more than anyone, then arguably Lib Dem. Greens have some mad social justice stuff that really undermines their main issues.
Grendel
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Should they be banned for standing? I mean let’s be honest however educated and young you are you must be as thick as Pig shit to vote for them if it’s not because you believe in them?
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