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Again, people seem to be thinking Private School = Eton or Harrow with that c**t who looks like him from the Beano strolling about.
I'm thinking Henry VIII or Bablake with the fees Fernando quoted. No way my parents could afford those fees.
 

Nick

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I'm thinking Henry VIII or Bablake with the fees Fernando quoted. No way my parents could afford those fees.

Nobody is saying everybody and anybody could though?

I know a fair few people with kids in them, they are by no means even what you would class as rich or a "well off family".
 

Nick

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So why are we saying some can, when actually the focus should be on the vast majority who can't!

And in some cases it's what people prioritise and want to afford. (again, some)

I know somebody who sends their kid to private school who has a properly old car and rocks about in old Slazenger T-Shirts. You would never ever look at him and think it. Half the time he looks like a hobo.

On the other hand I know people who will happily wear a £400 hoody and £500 trainers but have no interest in any education for their kids other than drop them off and pick them up.
 
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And in some cases it's what people prioritise and want to afford. (again, some)
Some - a minority. Who are still pretty well off if they can afford to spare £13k pa extra in school fees per child!
 

Nick

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Some - a minority. Who are still pretty well off if they can afford to spare £13k pa extra in school fees per child!

That's what bursaries are for as well. Then it isn't 13k.

13k a year is the difference between a 100k house and a £300k house.

You would really be surprised at how many at those are just normal people going out to work every day as opposed to people born onto an estate with butlers.
 

Grendel

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Some - a minority. Who are still pretty well off if they can afford to spare £13k pa extra in school fees per child!

Or they decide to put their disposable income into it. I know 4 people from council houses who do it and one who sold their house and downsized massively to raise cash
 
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Or they decide to put their disposable income into it. I know 4 people from council houses who do it and one who sold their house and downsized massively to raise cash
Again, most just don't have £13k disposable income (and that's just for one child, apparently!). Well done you if you do! You name me four from council houses, I'll name you plenty who don;t have the option to downsize as they're already down.

By the looks of this board, I can't help but feel I should have been applying to the season ticket support fund(!)
 
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Nick

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Again, most just don't have £13k disposable income (and that's just for one child, apparently!). Well done you if you do! You name me four from council houses, I'll name you plenty who don;t have the option to downsize as they're already down.

By the looks of this board, I can't help but feel I should have been applying to the season ticket support fund(!)

Can they not go up slightly? In terms of income.

(Said from somebody with basic GCSEs)

One person I know retrained and did it that way.
 

Grendel

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Again, most just don't have £13k disposable income (and that's just for one child, apparently!). Well done you if you do! You name me four from council houses, I'll name you plenty who don;t have the option to downsize as they're already down.

By the looks of this board, I can't help but feel I should have been applying to the season ticket support fund(!)

But that’s not the point is it if they choose to spend every penny on bettering their children it’s a real positive surely.

Sorry this is a Rwanda style headline grab from Starmer - it’s envy politics- an us and then mentality and a case of let’s have a race to the bottom of the education ladder and everyone can get the same experience

All mine were state educated at primary level. Really nice schools as in a decent area.

State comp in an absolute dump area. Went there on an open day literally horrified and thought not a chance. Didn’t care what it cost - and it cost a lot of loans refinancing and parental help - but that wasn’t for me

Oh and yes this was in the halcyon days of Tony Blair.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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But that’s not the point is it if they choose to spend every penny on bettering their children it’s a real positive surely.

Sorry this is a Rwanda style headline grab from Starmer - it’s envy politics- an us and then mentality and a case of let’s have a race to the bottom of the education ladder and everyone can get the same experience

All mine were state educated at primary level. Really nice schools as in a decent area.

State comp in an absolute dump area. Went there on an open day literally horrified and thought not a chance. Didn’t care what it cost - and it cost a lot of loans refinancing and parental help - but that wasn’t for me

Oh and yes this was in the halcyon days of Tony Blair.
I think that’s bollox it’s not the politics of envy there’s a middle ground, it’s abhorrent that we give charitable status to private education and leave rashford to embarrass the government to fund meal support. And yes there’s a question of religious institutions charitable status too you can throw in but to call it the politics of envy shows you hate starmer
 

Sky Blue Pete

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But that’s not the point is it if they choose to spend every penny on bettering their children it’s a real positive surely.

Sorry this is a Rwanda style headline grab from Starmer - it’s envy politics- an us and then mentality and a case of let’s have a race to the bottom of the education ladder and everyone can get the same experience

All mine were state educated at primary level. Really nice schools as in a decent area.

State comp in an absolute dump area. Went there on an open day literally horrified and thought not a chance. Didn’t care what it cost - and it cost a lot of loans refinancing and parental help - but that wasn’t for me

Oh and yes this was in the halcyon days of Tony Blair.
Interesting too you bring him up as the investment in education in his and labours first term was significant
 

Grendel

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I think that’s bollox it’s not the politics of envy there’s a middle ground, it’s abhorrent that we give charitable status to private education and leave rashford to embarrass the government to fund meal support. And yes there’s a question of religious institutions charitable status too you can throw in but to call it the politics of envy shows you hate starmer

Why mention Eton if it’s not? Also if it’s prime aim is not to save money what is it?
 

PVA

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Patel is a truly awful witch. Vile woman.



A British resident who is stranded in Jamaica with her baby has been told by the Home Office the child cannot come to the UK because he has an “established life” on the Caribbean island.

Tiffany Ellis, 28, has indefinite leave to remain in the UK, where she has lived since the age of eight. She gave birth to Xien Ellis on 30 April last year in Jamaica and has been trying to return to the UK ever since.

In a letter of refusal of the baby’s visa application, Home Office officials say the decision is “justified by the need to maintain an effective immigration and border control” and will not have “unjustifiably harsh consequences”.

They add that the baby’s life can continue as it is now in Jamaica with financial support from his mother in the UK.



 

Sky Blue Pete

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Patel is a truly awful witch. Vile woman.



A British resident who is stranded in Jamaica with her baby has been told by the Home Office the child cannot come to the UK because he has an “established life” on the Caribbean island.

Tiffany Ellis, 28, has indefinite leave to remain in the UK, where she has lived since the age of eight. She gave birth to Xien Ellis on 30 April last year in Jamaica and has been trying to return to the UK ever since.

In a letter of refusal of the baby’s visa application, Home Office officials say the decision is “justified by the need to maintain an effective immigration and border control” and will not have “unjustifiably harsh consequences”.

They add that the baby’s life can continue as it is now in Jamaica with financial support from his mother in the UK.



Madness
 
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What a man
Genuine question, as much because I know you're quite passionate on animal rights. Would Jeremy Hunt's stance on fox hunting automatically stop you voting for the Conservatives if he became leader?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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PVA

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I'd love to see some of these idiots go head to head with Starmer in the commons or in a debate.

Johnson could get away with his awful performances in PMQs because he's a 'bit of a character' or whatever.

These chancers like Braverman and Patel would get destroyed and it would be wonderful to watch them flounder.
 

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