…but they will vote for the lying, stealing, corrupt, incompetent party who will fuck them over?
You don't get it , which is understandable, you think this way too
You don't get it , which is understandable, you think this way too
I vote Labour, shmmeee alluded to it before why people don't like them ...they dont appeal to people .Have asked you before but genuinely what is Labour supposed to do? In fact that’s an open question to those slagging it off
Some fat old racists are still blaming the EU yes. I don't think that can be denied.
But it just comes back to the same question. People aren't voting Labour for whatever reasons which is fine, but why the hell are they then voting Tory.
I vote Labour, shmmeee alluded to it before why people don't like them ...they dont appeal to people .
They are the party of activism , the party of identity and social politics .
if you keep telling people how thick, racist and privileged they are , they won't vote for you .
I get it, I really do .
You can put forward good policies etc but nobody likes your MPs
I vote Labour, shmmeee alluded to it before why people don't like them ...they dont appeal to people .
They are the party of activism , the party of identity and social politics .
if you keep telling people how thick, racist and privileged they are , they won't vote for you .
I get it, I really do .
You can put forward good policies etc but nobody likes your MPs
Do people really like Hancock, Williamson, Patel, Gove and Raab?
You've posted one example of it, but that aside their MPs are not literally calling people thick racists, yet Tory government is literally stealing from people and fucking the country.
tbf, Hartlepool does make Nuneaton seem like Notting Hill and Covent GardenThese lot don't help our fight though, sorry Wisdom I'm done now View attachment 19952
People from hartlepool see things like this and think fuck you
tbf, Hartlepool does make Nuneaton seem like Notting Hill and Covent Garden
tbf, Hartlepool does make Nuneaton seem like Notting Hill and Covent Garden
Oh no they aren't!Ofcourse , but they are just normal people trying to get by
Oh no they aren't!
(I can say this, having relatives there!)
I think people genuinely do , that's the thing .
What we think isn't what everybody thinks .
Lot more Hartlepools than there are Notting Hills though.
Then you see why I’m just fed up of living in this country.
It can be changed .
Looked like the Tories weren't when Blair was sweeping all beside him.How? Labour are never getting back in.
Labour need all the hartlepools , they need these people on their side if they are ro ever win another election
Back in... 83? 87? The Sun's headline was VOTE TORY and a minority of their readership did.Without wanting to get into conspiracy, would be interested to see a breakdown of tabloid sales by region in relation to voting patterns. The voting patterns in somewhere like Liverpool which has virtually zero sales of the Sun and far less of other papers like the Mail/Express seems to suggest that something is different there. And it can’t just all be Hillsborough related.
Hmm, I could tag you hundreds of posts on social media by Labour MPs If I wanted to ...all deeply damaging to public opinion .
They should be fucked out the party
Then you see why I’m just fed up of living in this country.
How? Labour are never getting back in.
You're missing my point
Written words on social media is apparently a good enough reason not to vote Labour, but actual corruption, lying, 130k dead, record poverty & foodbank usage are not good enough reasons not to vote Tory?
Because one of those things is much more serious than the other, and its not the nasty words on twitter
Labour need to change...I think we all know this anyway , they can't continue like this and expect to be elected .
It's going to get alot worse before the penny drops .
You're missing my point
Written words on social media is apparently a good enough reason not to vote Labour, but actual corruption, lying, 130k dead, record poverty & foodbank usage are not good enough reasons not to vote Tory?
Because one of those things is much more serious than the other, and its not the nasty words on twitter
Looked like the Tories weren't when Blair was sweeping all beside him.
Probably rightNot going to change demographic shifts that have been happening for decades though.
You fundamentally misunderstand people. No one likes people more because they’re right or perfect, they like people who seem to like them and for many years Labour havent.
It was Teddy Taylor who said he far preferred Labour MPs as they were far nicer people than those from his own party, he just disagreed with their policies.Look let's not talk wet here ...like i said before I used a foodbank under a LABOUR government , Labour lied , people died , Labour politicians are corrupt too , rich politicians with a different tie on , you think people can't see this ?
Let's be real now
Yeah but there's being right and perfect.... And then there's this government. They're fucking crooks.
I have no problem with people not voting Labour. But to then vote Tory with the justification that you don't like what Labour say about you is just crazy.
Yeah but there's being right and perfect.... And then there's this government. They're fucking crooks.
I have no problem with people not voting Labour. But to then vote Tory with the justification that you don't like what Labour say about you is just crazy.
Doesn’t matter. Post expenses scandal “they’re all as bad as each other”.
The “justification” is “of the two serious possibilities they’re the one that doesn’t seem to think I’m a c**t”
People don’t read manifestos or Twitter news threads they take a gut feel about a party/leader.
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