Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Let's leave it here mate. You simply aren't reading what I'm saying or wanting to listen to the facts or first hand experience on the matter.
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Let's leave it here mate. You simply aren't reading what I'm saying or wanting to listen to the facts or first hand experience on the matter.
clint van damme
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The fact is the Dover port authority put a request into the UK government for 33 million which they said would have prevented this and the government didn't give them the money.
Port calls for millions in funds to stop post-Brexit hold ups
Port of Dover’s chief executive has called for millions of pounds of financial support from the Government as Brexit approaches.
www.google.com
You're half saying this isn't all brexits fault, which I agree with but then seem to veer into none of its brexits fault, which I don't.
clint van damme
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I love how members of this government talk as if they haven't been in charge of this country for 12 years.
David O'Day
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clint van damme
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This is just typical of this government. Headline grabbing policies that are ill-conceived, don't work, and cost the tax payer a fortune.
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...and are immoral
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Exactly.
Truss is just repeating what she hears because she doesn't understand and is trying to look like she does. Sunak is so wealthy and detached he has no idea of the importance of the services it provides and has an antiquated view of economics.
It still baffles e how the Tories have this veneer of economic competence when all evidence suggests they don't and their economic policy ideals should have been consigned to the dustbin of history by the turn of the century.
Grendel
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says someone who has batshit ideas on how to run businesses and admits hasn’t a shred of experience in reality
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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That would be fine if it were coming from anyone but the person on here who is consistently proven to be wrong.
Grendel
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Wrong about what?
I bet you are one of those business coach weirdos who advise businesses what to do and hurry off for the next pay day
Sick Boy
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I actually thought this was a joke at first.
What is that pose all about? It seems that other countries aren’t entitled to take back control of their borders then.
Everything the government comes out with is attention grabbing headline stuff with little substance.
The vacuous party for vacuous people.
fernandopartridge
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Lol somebody should Photoshop an S.I. badge for her arm on the picture
I actually thought this was a joke at first.
What is that pose all about? It seems that other countries aren’t entitled to take back control of their borders then.
Everything the government comes out with is attention grabbing headline stuff with little substance.
The vacuous party for vacuous people.
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clint van damme
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I actually thought this was a joke at first.
What is that pose all about? It seems that other countries aren’t entitled to take back control of their borders then.
Everything the government comes out with is attention grabbing headline stuff with little substance.
The vacuous party for vacuous people.
You know you meet those people in life who can never take responsibility for anything that happens to them.
Every bit of adversity they encounter is always someone elses fault.
We''ve become a country that's like that, no self reflection, no self awareness, it's fucking embarrassing.
Brighton Sky Blue
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You get the politicians you deserve. Prioritise snazzy charlatans over technocrats and this is what you get.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Sky Blue Pete
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You are so right bsb!!!
We don’t need experts anymore!!! We so bloody do
We don’t need experts anymore!!! We so bloody do
Brighton Sky Blue
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In an ideal world our best mate would also make the most competent leader. In reality however the world especially now needs solutions not slogans.
Which I realise is also a slogan
SkyBlueCharlie9
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Sorry mate juat making the point there has been 50mph permanently in place officialky since official Brexit launch date and last few days (and several instances before) the M20 has been completely shut. This is due primarily to extra Brexit checks at Dover. Billions spent creating a new inland port authority solely checking HGVs leaving Dover and Folkestone.
shmmeee
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Not sure even can legally cap the numbers can you? A claim is either valid or it’s not
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well more than one Tory PM in this stretch has tried and failed to stick to immigration targets so he presumably can’t credibly make another such pledge.
But when it comes to people making credible asylum claims I don’t think even the nasty party can refuse them. Though it wouldn’t stop Patel from trying.
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No you can't but this Government doesn't care about international law, hence the Northern Ireland Protocol Bill.
shmmeee
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It’s so weird. Basically all the people left worrying about immigration are in the Tory Party, so they’re going big on something most of the electorate doesn’t care about. Same with tax cuts and burning regulations.
Going to be interesting to see how much of this sticks around after the contest is over.
Going to be interesting to see how much of this sticks around after the contest is over.
I was referring to Johnson's cosplaying.
Truss is going after migrants even harder:
Brighton Sky Blue
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Well they need to appeal to Grendel to win the leadership and to Steve to win a general election. So judge the pivot from that
Sky Blue Pete
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duffer
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Brexit always meant extra passport checks at the border. The Government (and Dover), knew about what would happen back in 2020.
It was a conscious choice to do nothing about it. The government rejected additional funding for more passport control booths at Dover.
Brexiteers like Truss are incapable of taking responsibility for their own (foreseeably shit) decisions, or even sticking to what they've already agreed.
This clearly isn't France's fault - it's unbelievable that it's being presented as such.
www.thelondoneconomic.com
It was a conscious choice to do nothing about it. The government rejected additional funding for more passport control booths at Dover.
Brexiteers like Truss are incapable of taking responsibility for their own (foreseeably shit) decisions, or even sticking to what they've already agreed.
This clearly isn't France's fault - it's unbelievable that it's being presented as such.
The British government rejected a £33m proposal to double passport booths at Dover in 2020
They were warned that it would make queues at the port more likely, predictions which have played out of the last week.
www.thelondoneconomic.com
Brighton Sky Blue
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Brexit always meant extra passport checks at the border. The Government (and Dover), knew about what would happen back in 2020.
It was a conscious choice to do nothing about it. The government rejected additional funding for more passport control booths at Dover.
Brexiteers like Truss are incapable of taking responsibility for their own (foreseeably shit) decisions, or even sticking to what they've already agreed.
This clearly isn't France's fault - it's unbelievable that it's being presented as such.
The British government rejected a £33m proposal to double passport booths at Dover in 2020
They were warned that it would make queues at the port more likely, predictions which have played out of the last week.
Well with headlines like this one can just shake their head
How France wrecked Britain's great summer getaway
Port of Dover bosses claim French border police were warned repeatedly – but 'just haven't turned up'
www.telegraph.co.uk
clint van damme
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Well with headlines like this one can just shake their head
How France wrecked Britain's great summer getaway
Port of Dover bosses claim French border police were warned repeatedly – but 'just haven't turned up'
They were understaffed for a short period yesterday so I'm sure that contributed.
There seems to be some disagreement as to why that was but if that was the cause everything should be ok in a few days once the back logs cleared.
Let's see.
What I don't understand, is why leave voters are accepting all the shit that's gone on since we left the EU, (shit that some of us on the EU thread predicted), why aren't they going mad because they're not getting the brexit they expected and were promised instead of swallowing bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse and this blame game bollocks
Brighton Sky Blue
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Some people thought a 52-48 result was carte blanche to stick two fingers up at the EU and live happily ever after. At least some people I know who voted for it have admitted it was a mistake and that we should at least seek some kind of economic reintegration just to cut the red tape at the borders.
It’s funny that Sunak is so keen to cut the regulations that nobody notices or could even name in this country but is fine keeping the new ones that are making things genuinely harder. In any sane country these charlatans would have left office years ago never mind been given a stonking majority.
duffer
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The last question is easy enough to answer; no one who supported or voted for brexit is going to concede (yet) that it was a terrible decision.
On that basis, all that's left is to find someone to blame for the fall-out.
Having spent decades whilst in the EU blaming them for things that they weren't responsible for, we're now going to do exactly the same even though we're out.
Exactly. They should be furious at what's happened. I know I would be if I'd been promised all that and none of it materialised.
The fact that they seemingly aren't bothered means either 1) they're too embarrassed to admit they didn't know what they were voting for or to admit they got duped or 2) for many people they just wanted to "kick 'em out" and any other apparent benefits were just convenient excuses to cover their xenophobia