TomRad85
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Completely. I swear I used to think communism sounded like a good idea when I was 16.
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Completely. I swear I used to think communism sounded like a good idea when I was 16.I'd imagine you'd be just as happy for 16 year old to have a vote if they were likely to vote conservative yea ?
Let's be honest there's only 1 reason you want to give 16 year olds the vote , because they are likely to vote your way.
I don't think people should be driving at 17 either though tbh
But they're legally allowed to reproduce at a younger age than they're allowed to vote. Far more personal responsibility in looking after a kid than voting.
Which is fine, but at the moment you can drive, marry and reproduce before you can legally vote. Either lower the voting age or raise those
Completely. I swear I used to think communism sounded like a good idea when I was 16.
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So where do you draw the line with that? Black and ethnic groups are less likely to vote conservative. If you’re going to start coming up with reasons for sections of society not to have the vote it needs to be more comprehensive than who they’re likely to vote for.I'd imagine you'd be just as happy for 16 year old to have a vote if they were likely to vote conservative yea ?
Let's be honest there's only 1 reason you want to give 16 year olds the vote , because they are likely to vote your way.
So where do you draw the line with that? Black and ethnic groups are less likely to vote conservative. If you’re going to start coming up with reasons for sections of society not to have the vote it needs to be more comprehensive than who they’re likely to vote for.
Life experience Tone old chap. Got to draw the line somewhere... or shall we let toddlers vote? Free lollipops for the under 5s would be a vote winner.So where do you draw the line with that? Black and ethnic groups are less likely to vote conservative. If you’re going to start coming up with reasons for sections of society not to have the vote it needs to be more comprehensive than who they’re likely to vote for.
How do you judge that? I guarantee that I had more life experience by the time I was 16 than most of the front bench has now. I could tuck a shirt in and comb my hair by the time I left primary, the PM still can’t do that. The leader of the House of Commons still has a nanny. I understood that ferries had lorries on them carrying goods unlike the foreign secretary. I could count without making numbers up unlike the Home Secretary etc etc etc.Life experience Tone old chap. Got to draw the line somewhere... or shall we let toddlers vote? Free lollipops for the under 5s would be a vote winner.
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Sounds like you should be running country. Good luck with that.How do you judge that? I guarantee that I had more life experience by the time I was 16 than most of the front bench has now. I could tuck a shirt in and comb my hair by the time I left primary, the PM still can’t do that. The leader of the House of Commons still has a nanny. I understood that ferries had lorries on them carrying goods unlike the foreign secretary. I could count without making numbers up unlike the Home Secretary etc etc etc.
You’re a dinosaur.
Sounds like you should be running country. Good luck with that.
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Not really. It does highlight how under qualified those that are running the country are though. Most can’t tie their own shoe laces and the rest wouldn’t say half the things they do if they understood how stupid it was to say it in the first place. The PM suffering with both issues.Sounds like you should be running country. Good luck with that.
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A bit like the young Conservatives then.It’s why Hitler believed in the hitler youth - brainwashing the youth is much easier than the ones enjoying the benefits of capitalism
If you have to make things up you really don’t have a point to make.Tony wanted a UKIP government not that long ago
But was Prime Minister material at 16 by the sounds of it. Be interesting watching a right wing government change to a left wing government half way through their tenure.Tony wanted a UKIP government not that long ago
If we’re going by mental age you already do.I think we should offer 12 year olds the vote
Problem with the reproducing part is people have sex with or without caring about law , and often sex happens below the age of 16 ..how do you plan to make a law based on that alone ...quite hard
Be interesting to see the statistics of successful marriages for people below the age of 18 ,marriage effects 2 people ,it doesn't contributes towards voting In policies effecting millions
We already know younger drivers cause more accidents
They actively have control over who can vote and who can drive
I think we should offer 12 year olds the vote
My six year old pays tax when she spends her pocket money! She deserves a vote!
18 is adulthood, I think there’s a good argument for 21 for a lot of things. We don’t allow 16 year olds to marry without parental consent, sleep with people who might have influence over them, or AFAIK fully join the forces. And we’ve just upped the leaving age basically to 18.
No way should 16 year olds have the vote and it’s blatant politicking from the left on this.
I disagree - if 16 year olds can be expected to make decisions that influence their future directions in terms of school, college or apprenticeships, they deserve the right to have a voice over who and how they will be governed in the future.My six year old pays tax when she spends her pocket money! She deserves a vote!
18 is adulthood, I think there’s a good argument for 21 for a lot of things. We don’t allow 16 year olds to marry without parental consent, sleep with people who might have influence over them, or AFAIK fully join the forces. And we’ve just upped the leaving age basically to 18.
No way should 16 year olds have the vote and it’s blatant politicking from the left on this.
I disagree - if 16 year olds can be expected to make decisions that influence their future directions in terms of school, college or apprenticeships, they deserve the right to have a voice over who and how they will be governed in the future.
Everything is a fudge regardless, arbitrary ages for all sorts of things with no consistency whatsoever.So we should give the vote to 13 year olds cos they pick options? Some 11 year olds are given a say in their schooling.
Either everyone does or adults do, anything else is a fudge.
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