You're going to become a magistrate in all that spare time you have according to thisLooking forward to seeing that ‘soft left’ manifesto containing such gems as:
GPS tagging asylum seekers
Responsible stationery ordering
Those numbers I assume are actual voters not a percentage? The sample is quite small isn't it? Is it representative of a broad range of seats?Im telling you what the polling shows us. Johnson wasn’t particularly popular but Corbyn was an anathema to a lot of voters. Only 20% of switchers said Brexit was the reason:
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But you live in an absolute fantasy land for this stuff and can’t see outside your bubble so I’m not surprised you’re taking the Corbynista line hook line and sinker.
Great way to approach the teaching recruitment crisis, give them more inane shit to do.You're going to become a magistrate in all that spare time you have according to this
'Community courts' on Labour's justice agenda
Shadow justice secretary promises 50% increase in Crown prosecution staff and also hints at reviving idea of levy on City firms to fund access to justice.www.lawgazette.co.uk
Would you still prefer Corbyn as leader than Starmer?I mean you start getting emotionally invested in defending Starmer and slating Allen in response to moderate criticism of the former and moderate defence of the latter.
Quite why I as a teacher and union rep would want constant Tory governments is baffling. But you keep trotting out the line that we like being in opposition.
You have a world class talent at revising history I’ll give you that.Would you still prefer Corbyn as leader than Starmer?
The problem we have is we normally go for a leader that either comes with baggage or someone who speaks without thinking. We need someone the voters can trust. Last time Corbyn was supposed to win easily. Well at least the left as far as you can go did. And anyone who could see the truth was branded a Tory. Starmer has the best chance of winning us the next election since Bliar. And he was nothing but a Tory in disguise.
Who would you prefer to Starmer?
Blair and Brown had 13 years in charge of this country, with enormous majorities. They didn't revoke any anti union laws, they brought in academisation, invaded another country for no good reason, and allowed Thatcherite deregulation of financial services to carry on.You have a world class talent at revising history I’ll give you that.
Even I, a most ardent Corbyn supporter said that the absolute best Labour could hope for was being largest party, and having to rely on a coalition/confidence agreement with the SNP to govern.
You however did what you always do, telling us how you know everything, sat on both sides of the fence (mostly arguing with yourself) yet somehow decided that you still couldn’t vote for Corbyn - meaning you were essentially a Tory enabler - basically one of those FBPE types that now gets angry because people don’t fall into line with Starmer even though he’s a duplicitous arsehole.
Starmer will in all likelihood be the next PM - unless he somehow managed to fuck it up. Either way you’ll be there telling us how he’s got to make ‘difficult decisions’ when offering absolutely nothing transformative to the people of this country, or if he somehow bollocksed it up… how it was Corbyn’s legacy that was really at fault.
you could make a pretty strong argument that is more down to the Conservatives being unbelievably shit and in total disarray rather than any brilliance on Starmers partStarmer is objectively likely to be the next PM
you could make a pretty strong argument that is more down to the Conservatives being unbelievably shit and in total disarray rather than any brilliance on Starmers part
Blair and Brown had 13 years in charge of this country, with enormous majorities. They didn't revoke any anti union laws, they brought in academisation, invaded another country for no good reason, and allowed Thatcherite deregulation of financial services to carry on.
Not much good winning the elections if you govern like diet Tories anyway. Starmer won't get the same size majority as them, and he certainly has nothing like the charisma or the gravitas. The country now is in a weaker state than it was in 1997. The best we can hope is he's the Doug King to the country's Joy Seppalla.
Any Labour government is better than any Tory government. Of course we’d all like a supersocialist radical government that implements all out pet policies and never fucks up. Problem is the left is generally too busy sniffing their own farts and crying into their beer to try and win. It’s not hard, get a leader who isn’t mental, make a few attempts to meet the voters half way.
Pratchett PBUH said it best “And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn't that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people.”
Any Labour government is better than any Tory government. Of course we’d all like a supersocialist radical government that implements all out pet policies and never fucks up. Problem is the left is generally too busy sniffing their own farts and crying into their beer to try and win. It’s not hard, get a leader who isn’t mental, make a few attempts to meet the voters half way.
What do you keep going on about the left for? It's pointed out to you that 13 years of labour achieved very little long term benefit and you start rattling on about the left again.Any Labour government is better than any Tory government. Of course we’d all like a supersocialist radical government that implements all out pet policies and never fucks up. Problem is the left is generally too busy sniffing their own farts and crying into their beer to try and win. It’s not hard, get a leader who isn’t mental, make a few attempts to meet the voters half way.
Pratchett PBUH said it best “And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn't that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people.”
I’m generally too busy doing my job, to be honest. Would just be nice for the leader of the Labour Party not to laugh at the profession while I’m doing it
He’s not though is he? I mean come on. There’s plenty to be upset at Starmer for: weak drug policy despite polling changes, god awful “lol look governments spend money” messaging right now, generally being a bit of a wet lettuce. Making shit up about how he’s really a Tory is just not credible.
Look what you’ve become
Would you like to explain how you think I sit on the fence? Os it I hardly ever trust any politician?You have a world class talent at revising history I’ll give you that.
Even I, a most ardent Corbyn supporter said that the absolute best Labour could hope for was being largest party, and having to rely on a coalition/confidence agreement with the SNP to govern.
You however did what you always do, telling us how you know everything, sat on both sides of the fence (mostly arguing with yourself) yet somehow decided that you still couldn’t vote for Corbyn - meaning you were essentially a Tory enabler - basically one of those FBPE types that now gets angry because people don’t fall into line with Starmer even though he’s a duplicitous arsehole.
Starmer will in all likelihood be the next PM - unless he somehow managed to fuck it up. Either way you’ll be there telling us how he’s got to make ‘difficult decisions’ when offering absolutely nothing transformative to the people of this country, or if he somehow bollocksed it up… how it was Corbyn’s legacy that was really at fault.
For me a big point is not to give the gutter press ammunition.You could, but then again the Conservatives have been unbelievably shit for a while, arguably since 2016. And it didn’t stop them beating Corbyn. Ultimately when a government fails you still have to look more credible.
He’s not though is he? I mean come on. There’s plenty to be upset at Starmer for: weak drug policy despite polling changes, god awful “lol look governments spend money” messaging right now, generally being a bit of a wet lettuce. Making shit up about how he’s really a Tory is just not credible.
He’s not though is he? I mean come on. There’s plenty to be upset at Starmer for: weak drug policy despite polling changes, god awful “lol look governments spend money” messaging right now, generally being a bit of a wet lettuce. Making shit up about how he’s really a Tory is just not credible.
!And he'll prove to be just as corrupt.
He's thoroughly dishonest, I'm talking Johnson levels of dishonesty.
And he'll prove to be just as corrupt.
Bookmark mark this for 3 or 4 years into his first term and I'll happily admit to talking bollocks if I'm wrong.
I find this disturbing knowing people involved in roles as his. Was he dishonest as a lawyer and director of public prosecutions too?He's thoroughly dishonest, I'm talking Johnson levels of dishonesty.
And he'll prove to be just as corrupt.
Bookmark mark this for 3 or 4 years into his first term and I'll happily admit to talking bollocks if I'm wrong.
You are of course entitled to your opinion, but this is just nuts!
I find this disturbing knowing people involved in roles as his. Was he dishonest as a lawyer and director of public prosecutions too?
What's the evidence for him being corrupt?Why? Him being dishonest isn't an opinion it's fact.
Him ending up being proven corrupt is an opinion, but it can be neither proved or disproved at the moment.
What's the evidence for him being corrupt?
OkHe's now a politician, what he does as a politician is all that counts.
YepThere's no evidence to prove I'm not a Ted Bundy tribute act apart from my lack of brutal murdering.
What's the evidence of Johnson levels of dishonesty?Try reading my post again.
What's the evidence of Johnson levels of dishonesty?
There's no evidence to prove I'm not a Ted Bundy tribute act apart from my lack of brutal murdering.
I agree with that but Boris levels of lying? He’d have to have been thoroughly dishonest in all aspects of his life before being a politician to reach those levels and there’s no evidence of that.He's now a politician, what he does as a politician is all that counts.
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