clint van damme
Well-Known Member
That's what I was referring to, it's piss poor.
Though he has committed to loads of policies, then u turned on all of them.
“Frankly, the left has to start caring a lot more about growth, about creating wealth, attracting inward investment and kickstarting a spirit of enterprise,”
Great Keir. And you’ve got a list of these magical growth policies that require zero spend have you? And decided not to pick up the Nobel Prize in Economics for such a discovery? How modest!
He’s going to actually have to do something at some point. He can’t keep making mom and apple pie statements and never actually commit to a policy.
I’m not as learned as you In politics I thought he spoke well this morning
Why is it misleading? You said yourself we have one of the most punitive. We lose out on the very wealthy, as almost always. The idea we need to hit a load of middle class grannies is a nonsense.
It’s the same with almost all taxes, especially wealth taxes. The losses that would be caught be most measures like a floor rate would only hit the wealthiest who are avoiding the most tax. Most comfortable people don’t use these schemes and pay the full whack.
Im referring primarily to the differences that are relating to BTR or whatever it’s called now
Anyway I’m sure if Sunak doesn’t have the guts to get rid of it Starmer will on his wealth creation agenda
What percentage of deaths do you think are hit by inheritance tax?
Why would it be brave to remove it?
The figure is below 4% - you’ve identified yourself why it’s brave as it’s perceived as a tax which is avoided by rich people through trusts and that they should pay more
I personally am not convinced by the argument and even the commentator grudgingly acknowledges the likely main reason of discrepancy
If only 4% of people pay it, and it’s avoided by rich people. What do you call someone richer than 96% of people if not rich?
Taxing unearned wealth is an economic good. We want a society that rewards effort and innovation, not falling out the right vagina.
That tactic got Cameron in.“Frankly, the left has to start caring a lot more about growth, about creating wealth, attracting inward investment and kickstarting a spirit of enterprise,”
Great Keir. And you’ve got a list of these magical growth policies that require zero spend have you? And decided not to pick up the Nobel Prize in Economics for such a discovery? How modest!
He’s going to actually have to do something at some point. He can’t keep making mom and apple pie statements and never actually commit to a policy.
That tactic got Cameron in.
We’ll have photoshoots of Keith in the North Pole with huskies on a snowmobile next.
I can see The Sun’s headline now…’sKier takes us downhill fast’…or something.
That tactic got Cameron in.
We’ll have photoshoots of Keith in the North Pole with huskies on a snowmobile next.
I can see The Sun’s headline now…’sKier takes us downhill fast’…or something.
Oh, I’m not saying it’s a good thing. Just possibly seen as an effective way to get in.and look how that worked out!
The likes of @PVA who make up a large proportion of the electorate
Says the bloke part of the large proportion of the electorate who voted Tory and for Brexit.
I’ve given reasons for Brexit numerous times - I’ve voted Tory 3 perhaps 4 times in my life and will not be voting Tory at this election - so not really
Yes exactly so I will not be lectured by you on who I do or don't vote for given the damage you and your ilk have done to the country.
So are you seeing Mr Starmer as a visionary hopeful or business as usual
I’ve already stated I admire Corbyn and McDonnell- you I believe snigger and call people on the left Corbyn lovers
He would against Corbyn who was an unelectable fuckwit
I don't agree with a lot of what he's said in the last few weeks but he's doing everything he can to win an election. And it's working.
And yes you were so full of admiration for Corbyn weren't you
Not that Corbyn is in anyway relevant to this conversation.
Well Corbyn was then as he couldn’t actually stand anymore for what he wanted and was shafted by Starmer and his bonkers brexit strategy - he had given up. Hes pretty relevant I suspect to a lot of labour members and voters
Your comments about “winning an election and it’s working” also applied to a certain Alexander Boris De Pleffel Johnson — somewhat ironic that
What exactly is Starmer's stance on it?And the difference is Starmer is not standing on a policy of wilfully destroying the country like Johnson was. So well done for being taken in by his lies.
No, Corbyn is clearly not relevant anymore.
And the difference is Starmer is not standing on a policy of wilfully destroying the country like Johnson was. So well done for being taken in by his lies.
What exactly is Starmer's stance on it?
more of the same
What exactly is Starmer's stance on it?
Which of his policies will look to repair the relationship and bring about closer integration?On Brexit? He's clearly pro EU.
Because he's not a fucking idiot.
No, Corbyn is clearly not relevant anymore.
And the difference is Starmer is not standing on a policy of wilfully destroying the country like Johnson was. So well done for being taken in by his lies.
It's just vibes with you isn't itOn Brexit? He's clearly pro EU.
Because he's not a fucking idiot.
If Starmer stood on any kind of barely coherent policy that would give the people of this country even an ounce of hope it would be a significant gear change from him.No, Corbyn is clearly not relevant anymore.
And the difference is Starmer is not standing on a policy of wilfully destroying the country like Johnson was. So well done for being taken in by his lies.
It's just vibes with you isn't it
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