Nuskyblue
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Who is Lee Anderson and what the fuck is a vegetarian?
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fernandopartridge
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In this case though it hasn't been, it's nothing to do with it. The only 'trade deal' the NHS was included in was our membership of the single market.
To be honest with you, there probably is a brexit freedom related angle to come in that the PCR is soon to be abolished and replaced with domestic law which removes healthcare from its scope, which in theory is to make it easier legally to award contracts for healthcare services to any entity.
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Genuinely amazed this was ever a thing tbh!
Andy Malkinson: Living costs deduction scrapped for wrongly convicted
Andy Malkinson, who cleared his name after 17 years in jail, tells the BBC more still needs to be done.
www.bbc.co.uk
Sky Blue Pete
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Read front page of the observer today and pages 13-14Genuinely amazed this was ever a thing tbh!
Andy Malkinson: Living costs deduction scrapped for wrongly convicted
Andy Malkinson, who cleared his name after 17 years in jail, tells the BBC more still needs to be done.www.bbc.co.uk
Our prisons are a national disgrace and we are just sending people away for a few months or years to come out much much worse
We need a national discussion about what our prisons are for and start to do something meaningful towards helping people be a better version of themselves
Absolute disgrace
Sentences longer
Imprisoning more people than ever and our peer countries
Norway changed it in 1990’s and are reaping the benefits
Sky Blue Pete
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The Observer view: Britain’s brutal and overcrowded prisons pose a risk to us all | Prisons and probation | The Guardian
Nothing will change until politicians of all parties acknowledge that too many people are in prison
35000 of 70000 remand prisoners (who can be held for up to 182 days) are released for time served, without trial or as innocent
Sky Blue Pete
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Read about the Norwegian changes put into place in the 90’s and of course
It’s not rocket science it’s following the evidence and data and not political dogma
Rehabilitation Lessons from Norway's Prison System
Today, Norway's prison system has become a model for the rest of the world, and some states in the U.S. are following Norway’s lead.
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Sky Blue Pete
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Read criminal by Angela Kirwin
shmmeee
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Read about the Norwegian changes put into place in the 90’s and of course
It’s not rocket science it’s following the evidence and data and not political dogma
Rehabilitation Lessons from Norway's Prison System
Today, Norway's prison system has become a model for the rest of the world, and some states in the U.S. are following Norway’s lead.
No totally. I just always worry that the big three domestic policy areas (health, education, police) that they’re picking up the pieces of poor social policy elsewhere first and foremost.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Quite reliably told that Warwick Uni have under 50 PGCE students enrolled for next year, in total. These professions are going to collapse soon if recruitment and retention continue to be terrible regardless of how good the policy is.
shmmeee
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Preaching to the choir there my friend. Same with doctors. Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks, the market has spoken.
Ian1779
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Teach First have barely met 50% of their trainee allocation for this year.
shmmeee
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I’ve said before: my daughter is literally having national curriculum subjects not taught to her. With the school falling back on “we’re an academy we don’t have to follow the national curriculum”. But they openly admit it’s because they can’t find staff.
Who, of any political stripe, wants this? Honestly? Even the most right wing, libertarian, deficit hawk, surely still wants kids given an education based on what’s best not what we can scrape up from the graduate job market to put up with the pay and conditions?
(No offence intended to those currently putting up with said pay and conditions)
clint van damme
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Genuinely amazed this was ever a thing tbh!
Andy Malkinson: Living costs deduction scrapped for wrongly convicted
Andy Malkinson, who cleared his name after 17 years in jail, tells the BBC more still needs to be done.www.bbc.co.uk
Under a tory government? Not one bit surprised.
Brighton Sky Blue
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None taken. The pay was not worth the conditions.
Grendel
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it was under Blair’s government
clint van damme
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Again, not surprised
Grendel
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He did an interview about it last week - both parties keep it and no one seems keen to override the ruling from 2007
Sky Blue Pete
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I was wrong it’s now 8 months as courts were delayed during covid and just as a reminder 50% of those remanded leave once their case comes to court or when there case is dismissed or fallsThe Observer view: Britain’s brutal and overcrowded prisons pose a risk to us all | Prisons and probation | The Guardian
Nothing will change until politicians of all parties acknowledge that too many people are in prisonamp.theguardian.com
35000 of 70000 remand prisoners (who can be held for up to 182 days) are released for time served, without trial or as innocent
Was thinking about this all day yesterday as finished the book and then watched bbc news and the story of the mum caring for her lad with muscular dystrophy and how she can’t get respite support or care support as it costs £80/hr and nhs only pay £19.
Think I need to lie in a dark room and not allow myself to feel any emotion as there’s too much to do and change seems so impossibly hard
And then I look at the man in the mirror and think fuck what are you doing
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duffer
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I'm not sure that there's much you can do, mate, other than trying to do the decent thing at an individual level and highlight to others the huge injustices and cruelty where you see them.
It doesn't feel like voting will change much - Starmer has no convictions and alternative parties won't get a sniff under FPTP.
Do what you can, Pete, but don't let it get to you - you can't fix the world on your own mate.
I'm not sure that there's much you can do, mate, other than trying to do the decent thing at an individual level and highlight to others the huge injustices and cruelty where you see them.
It doesn't feel like voting will change much - Starmer has no convictions and alternative parties won't get a sniff under FPTP.
Do what you can, Pete, but don't let it get to you - you can't fix the world on your own mate.
Yeah, you’re obviously a decent caring man Pete. By all means do what you can but try not to let stuff outside of your control get you down
Sky Blue Pete
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Wise wordsI'm not sure that there's much you can do, mate, other than trying to do the decent thing at an individual level and highlight to others the huge injustices and cruelty where you see them.
It doesn't feel like voting will change much - Starmer has no convictions and alternative parties won't get a sniff under FPTP.
Do what you can, Pete, but don't let it get to you - you can't fix the world on your own mate.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yeah
shmmeee
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God grant me the serenity eh @Sky Blue Pete ?
Sky Blue Pete
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I know
fernandopartridge
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Yeah, at least with Blairism (rather than Starmer's piss poor approximation of it) he genuinely did want to do something about the causes "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" etc.
shmmeee
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At the very least it put it in the conversation. “Joined up government” as well I remember being a buzzword. Say what you want about Labour but at least they try and head in the right direction instead of whatever the hell the last 13 years has been about.
Sky Blue Pete
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Did the wrong things with crime though I think on balance
Ian1779
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My own school is cutting KS3 subjects as it can’t staff them - with OFSTED looming not sure how wise that is but we’ll see.
There is no real benefit to any of this approach from the Tories, in the same way I don’t think that the academy approach kickstarted by Blair benefitted schools as funding disappeared into CEO and ‘consultant’ roles and even now the remaining local authority schools perform better than academy schools.
Politically no matter where you sit having a piss poor education system is of no benefit, but that’s where we are headed despite the best efforts of those still mad enough to be in the profession.
I think in the next 3 years we will see a school somewhere forced to permanently close as it can’t staff and operate safely, and it won’t be the last.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Mrs BSB works in a private school and they struggle to get applicants even there. She’s now also committing to trying to leave the profession.
The state school I was in before my current one was already relying heavily on agency staff to fill the timetable, can’t imagine what state it’s in now.
clint van damme
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Depressing state of affairs.
fernandopartridge
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The ironic thing about it is that after 13 years of austerity (and even the seedlings of it in the last Labour government), the tax burden on your average Joe is higher than ever. What was the actual objective of it? I wonder whether the UK media will ever examine its own role in propagating a lot of the utter myths associated with it. In particular the alleged public service broadcasters.
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shmmeee
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It’s like Lisa’s tiger rock isn’t it? If they hadn’t done it imagine how much worse it would have been!