Ian1779
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It did - I remember him looking a bit like Sven Goran Eriksson.
It did - I remember him looking a bit like Sven Goran Eriksson.Man, did that mean you voted for Peter Bone?!?
It did - I remember him looking a bit like Sven Goran Eriksson.
I should Cameron really for turning me into a leftie….You are a Cameron babe along with Tony - just be happy today is the Second Coming of the Tory Blair
Tony to be fair will be glued to the jungle to see Nigel sucking on a Penis and dreaming it could be him
No wonder you're so anti Starmer, the only way to correct that is to go full Lenin!It did - I remember him looking a bit like Sven Goran Eriksson.
Well it appears I would have fitted the mould far more than I realised at the time.Were you his Ulrika?
Nailed on Corbynista really…. Helps me find my inner peace.No wonder you're so anti Starmer, the only way to correct that is to go full Lenin!
he heard there was a buffetSounds like Sunak is safe for a while. This meeting of the far right Tories looks to be an anticlimax, reported about only 8 MP’s have turned up although they’re claiming more are joining on zoom. About the most interesting thing about it was that 50p Lee turned up to it. Maybe another resignation in the offing.
The days when a bribe to the DUP was our biggest concernIt’s astonishing when you yearn for the Theresa May years
Tbf she had a divided party and her legacy was failure of a Brexit deal, that I don't think anyone at that time could've feasibily delivered. Wrong time only imo. She has more integrity than many of those before or after her and I think if she was PM now then we'd be in a far better place. I genuinely believe in different circumstances that she could've been a very good leader. Reading the past few pages of balanced opinion about the horrible Tories, I'll not expect any likes for this, as my first post on this thread for ages. I think I'll go back into hibernation now.It’s astonishing when you yearn for the Theresa May years
Tbf she had a divided party and her legacy was failure of a Brexit deal, that I don't think anyone at that time could've feasibily delivered. Wrong time only imo. She has more integrity than many of those before or after her and I think if she was PM now then we'd be in a far better place. I genuinely believe in different circumstances that she could've been a very good leader. Reading the past few pages of balanced opinion about the horrible Tories, I'll not expect any likes for this, as my first post on this thread for ages. I think I'll go back into hibernation now.
Integrity? She who started hostile environment, tried illegally to strip Windrush generation individuals of their means of staying here and refused to meet anyone at Grenfell and stayed behind the police lines showing no compassion. Hardly screams integrity to me.Tbf she had a divided party and her legacy was failure of a Brexit deal, that I don't think anyone at that time could've feasibily delivered. Wrong time only imo. She has more integrity than many of those before or after her and I think if she was PM now then we'd be in a far better place. I genuinely believe in different circumstances that she could've been a very good leader. Reading the past few pages of balanced opinion about the horrible Tories, I'll not expect any likes for this, as my first post on this thread for ages. I think I'll go back into hibernation now.
It's no good laughing at the comment really is it Grendel, the comments accurate as far as I can tell?Integrity? She who started hostile environment, tried illegally to strip Windrush generation individuals of their means of staying here and refused to meet anyone at Grenfell and stayed behind the police lines showing no compassion. Hardly screams integrity to me.
How did she try to tackle the social care crisis? She certainly did not succeed. She was consumed with Brexit and I think when the covid enquiry reports her failure to ensure proper planning for a pandemic means her legacy will be that she was one of the key reasons for the high deathtoll. Her Government explicitly failed to respond to a report saying we needed to have a plan, including things like PPE. The more I think about it the worse I realise she was.May did some good stuff, tried to tackle the social care crisis and nearly lost her job for it, did good work on modern slavery, and did the absolute best Brexit deal given the ludicrous constraints put on her.
I mean, still a Tory, but I think I’d have trouble coming up with a similar small list for the others.
Think this is itHow did she try to tackle the social care crisis?
Be world king by any means?What was Boris's plan?
Was it a tax which was promptly dropped?Be world king by any means?
How did she try to tackle the social care crisis? She certainly did not succeed. She was consumed with Brexit and I think when the covid enquiry reports her failure to ensure proper planning for a pandemic means her legacy will be that she was one of the key reasons for the high deathtoll. Her Government explicitly failed to respond to a report saying we needed to have a plan, including things like PPE. The more I think about it the worse I realise she was.
Oh and let's not forget the vans she sanctioned to go around in North London telling immigrants to 'go home'. She was the precursor and laid the ground for Patel and Braverman. Such integrity!
She was better than the other four but she was truly horrendous.She put forward an actual plan to fund it which is more than anyone else in the last thirty years. Then it nearly cost her the election against Corbyn and it had to be dropped. I’m not saying she’s the worlds greatest PM. I’m saying she tried to do some good things. Which is more than the other four.
She put forward an actual plan to fund it which is more than anyone else in the last thirty years. Then it nearly cost her the election against Corbyn and it had to be dropped. I’m not saying she’s the worlds greatest PM. I’m saying she tried to do some good things. Which is more than the other four.
That’s the problem with politics and to some extent a lot of the public. We have glaring issues in society but when someone acknowledges it and suggests a potential solution which might cost us, everyone jumps on it….usually without any credible alternative….so problems don’t get solved and issues get worse
It was the same when NIC got raised to cover an increase in social and initially health care. Everyone up in arms. People need to understand, we live longer, need more care so unfortunately are going to have to put more in the pot to cover it.
Not saying Mays was the ideal solution but at least she had the balls to try to address it. The mistake she made was putting it in the manifiesto. She should’ve just proposed it at a later date, but from memory, I think this was her way of forcing something through against dissenting voices within her own party ie got mandate from country via election. Didn’t go to plan !
Her red lines were clearly an agreement with the Brexit hardliners for Ledsom to drop out leaving her as PM. If she had any sense she would have been the one dropping out leaving a leaver to deal with the mess that brexit was always going to be. She was never going to be allowed to deliver brexit, she was only ever there as they needed someone to blame for the mess. As someone once said she was offered up as some sort of pallet cleanser ahead of a leaver taking the reins. Kind of ironic that it ended up being Boris taking up the reins who resigned over May’s first brexit deal which ultimately ended up being the one he ended up delivering himself. Although I suspect that there was more detail in the May version.She was better than the other four but she was truly horrendous.
She started all the nonsense about leaving the European Convention on Human Rights and her stupid red lines on Brexit meant that staying in the single market couldn't happen. Her reign was very damaging.
The most shocking thing about this post is the idea that people actually watch Piers MorganSo, I take it we don’t need to keep questioning why Corbyn didn’t get elected after his Piers Morgan interview?
The most shocking thing about this post is the idea that people actually watch Piers Morgan
What that we're now witnessing a genocide and can't say as such?So, I take it we don’t need to keep questioning why Corbyn didn’t get elected after his Piers Morgan interview?
What that we're now witnessing a genocide and can't say as such?
How would you stand up against it??You can say it without getting irrationally angry at an interviewer for doing his job. He just had to say yes and move on. And that’s why he can’t do politics. He’s so easy to bait.
How would you stand up against it??
So, I take it we don’t need to keep questioning why Corbyn didn’t get elected after his Piers Morgan interview?
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