Do you want to discuss boring politics? (21 Viewers)
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Sure they had the heads up, but I think otherwise personally?
eastwoodsdustman
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A trick learned from Tony Blair. He did it to get into power in the 90's.
shmmeee
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Starmer has repeatedly called Hamas terrorists. That’s why there aren’t any viral videos to be had asking him that question. Instead you ask him what a woman is.
Grendel
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It’s an inevitable decision which will lead to ECHR being a target and the rhetoric the law is denying an ejected government to decide its own legislation
skybluetony176
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Quite possible but I’m thinking that some centre right Tory voters might be wooed back. To his credit I think Sunak understands that the culture war bollocks isn’t working, unless you want a load of gammons fighting police to disrupt proceedings at the cenotaph. Bringing in Cameron is a clear shift back towards the centre ground which with the exception of 2019 is where the Tories perform best. My gut feeling is that the Tories will claw more back than they lose. The only question is will it be in key battlegrounds. I suspect vote’s going to Reform or another far right will be enough for Labour to win in the red wall.
shmmeee
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I wish
skybluetony176
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I don’t know about a heads up, but Braverman’s letter to Sunak (and her general behaviour for the past month) suggests the writing has been on the wall for some time
shmmeee
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They’ll definitely rebound from where they are now. I’m just not sure they can convincingly play moderates to the public after the last few years. But who knows, people tend to tune out between elections.
Do you mean elected,more of it in some form then?
Grendel
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lol yes perhaps a Freudian slip
let’s be honest - a lot of Red wall voters who deserted labour did so because of immigration and Brexit. So this is a feeble attempt to prevent those returning to labour at the next election.
The right will be absolutely frothing over this and the government will of course continue to whip it up.
skybluetony176
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We should probably point out that the government has already spanked £140M on this folly. Maybe it would have been a good idea to sort the legality out first? Already rumours that the government is now trying to look for another country to partner up with so it looks like they plan to do the same thing expecting different results.
fernandopartridge
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The court found that the Rwanda plan was in breach of domestically originated legislation
skybluetony176
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You’re employing critical thinking and facts. You’re not their target audience.
skybluetony176
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According to Andrea Jenkyns half a dozen MP’s are putting letters of no confidence in today. Assuming non of the reported earlier in year 25 letters haven’t been withdrawn they’re scrapping just over 30 letters, well short.
David O'Day
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bringing cameron is as you say a clear attempt to shift back to the centre and it's pretty much they are giving up on the red wall and are trying to limit the level of defeat by looking to defend the blue wall by bringing back the more liberal tories that live there from the lib dems
Brighton Sky Blue
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Or you ask him about strikes.
shmmeee
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Exactly. If you’ve got a topic that can elicit a viral response from a politician you push it. And while Starmer blusters and bothers, Corbyn gets angry and aggressive and more importantly the range of topics on which he does so is far wider and more controversial than Starmer’s.
David O'Day
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Apart from 1 brief mention of the ECHR Sunak seems to be admitting it is uk legislation that led the SC to it's decision.
A big more centrist push aimed at the blue wall?
A big more centrist push aimed at the blue wall?
duffer
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It's time to play the, "Let's find a country in the world that we haven't pissed off at some point in the last few centuries" game. It's a fairly short list.
Failing that we just need to find a country with a government as corrupt and incompetent as our own, and chuck their PM/President a large brown envelope. Given our current government, that's a pretty short list too.
shmmeee
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It's time to play the, "Let's find a country in the world that we haven't pissed off at some point in the last few centuries" game. It's a fairly short list.
Failing that we just need to find a country with a government as corrupt and incompetent as our own, and chuck their PM/President a large brown envelope. Given our current government, that's a pretty short list too.
Wasn’t Rwanda the latter?
Ukraine?It's time to play the, "Let's find a country in the world that we haven't pissed off at some point in the last few centuries" game. It's a fairly short list.
Failing that we just need to find a country with a government as corrupt and incompetent as our own, and chuck their PM/President a large brown envelope. Given our current government, that's a pretty short list too.
Would’ve made sense to get the legalities sorted first wouldnt it ! Absolute waste of money so far. Sure I’ve heard/read recently that we’re not the only European country looking into this type of solution…maybe everyone’s going to have to leave the ECHR
Be interested to see how Sunak proceeds and whether post braverman he dials things down a little.
David O'Day
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he seemed more sensible in PMQs about thisWould’ve made sense to get the legalities sorted first wouldnt it ! Absolute waste of money so far. Sure I’ve heard/read recently that we’re not the only European country looking into this type of solution…maybe everyone’s going to have to leave the ECHR
Be interested to see how Sunak proceeds and whether post braverman he dials things down a little.
Sick Boy
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You have to admire Corbyn's passion though, he actually seems to genuinely care, unlike most other politicians.
fernandopartridge
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I'd be angry if, while a genocide is taking place, my interviewer was speaking to me solely for a "Corbyn loves terrorists lol" gotcha. It's really a sign of the moral cesspit the media is that the c**t is still prominent.
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That still wouldn't have sorted the moralities of course.
Brighton Sky Blue
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When will this party stop embarrassing the country?
David O'Day
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he had no clue what his next step was if that presser was anything to go on
looks beaten
Brighton Sky Blue
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Just trying to feather his nest for when they get turned out. The problem is this zombie government is causing harm each day it carries on and is just making their impending defeat heavier the longer it drags out.