But what else did he expect from being interviewed by Piers Morgan?
As you say he's a c**t, and he was only going to go into that interview looking for one thing - and Corbyn handed it to him on a gold plate.
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But what else did he expect from being interviewed by Piers Morgan?
As you say he's a c**t, and he was only going to go into that interview looking for one thing - and Corbyn handed it to him on a gold plate.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Exactly, I think that's the point shmmeee was making at the start really, he's just not very good at this.
Brighton Sky Blue
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To be fair to Morgan, who we all agree can be a bit of a c*nt, he answered both McCluskey and Corbyns direct questions. He condemned the Israeli settlements and condemned the ability for Israel to control energy and water. He also commented on having a Palestinian on the show recently who had had numerous members of his family killed by Israel.
Morgan asked two direct and legitimate questions, do they class Hamas a terror group and should they be left in charge of Gaza (suggesting that if they are, no deal will ever be done by Israel). McCluskey answered, Corbyn refused numerous times He also lied about about the story when he said ‘friend from Hamas’
McCluskey obviously knows Corbyns real/full views on this subject as he desperately tried to protect him and answer on his behalf. I can only assume Corbyn sees Hamas as an acceptable means to end.
skybluetony176
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Bassem Youssef tore Morgan a new one in his interview. Worth looking it up if you haven’t seen it already.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It is indeed.
fernandopartridge
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Did for him completely not just because of the way the vote went, but his refusal to back a line showed her was incapable of leadership. He had to either go with his personal view, or embrace his party's view under the spirit of in it together. To do neither was utterly feeble really.
shmmeee
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He was great while no one took him seriously and there were no foreign policy issues. Once people started challenging him he falls apart.
He’s spends all his time around people who agree with everything he says and has real trouble once he’s outside that bubble. That’s a deal breaker for anything more than a constituency MP. And not particularly great for that.
This goes back to my theory about the left losing competent negotiators and leaders with the loss of the unions and replacing them with activists who just want to shout and hold placards.
Brighton Sky Blue
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To be honest unions are mostly those now too. Though anyone who ‘does’ anything does get pushed up the chain quickly
shmmeee
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Exactly. Why has the TUC got a view on Gaza or whatever? Like i get it. Solidarity and everything. But I just wish the left was a bit better at keeping its eyes on the prize and playing its own area instead of insisting on everyone getting involved in every cause. It causes constant purity spirals and endless gotchas. And builds this bunker mentality where it’s hard to reach across the aisle at all or take a moderate position for expedient reasons in your particular circumstances.
fernandopartridge
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It's because the party that once represented the needs of the working class hasn't done so to any great extent for many years and barely even pretends to these days.
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I got cold looks at union meetings if I opposed the use of union funds, ie members’ subs, to send delegations to Gaza, Calais etc.
fernandopartridge
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Thank God the wage price spiral was avoided
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To be fair the wage price spiral is usually a second phase of inflation. Hopefully won’t happen although wages increases are likely to keep prices at this higher level ie materials and energy costs might drop but increases in wages will now be baked in
By all accounts we’re currently running at real terms wage increases for the first time in ages. About time. One benefit of a tight labour market
shmmeee
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Working class posties massively affected by whether the uk calls for a ceasefire are they?
fernandopartridge
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shmmeee
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How exactly does it help them get a better deal from their employer? Not all left wing institutions are interchangeable.
You been hacked mate
David O'Day
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he's rightYou been hacked mate
FP has jumped the shark and is now just a parody account.
Brighton Sky Blue
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State of this, seriously
Sky Blue Pete
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Wanker
fernandopartridge
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The TUC isn't a trade union in itself, there is no employer with whom it has a relationship. The Labour party derived from a motion at Congress. I get your point to an extent tbh but I also get why nominally left wing organisations might leave their lane at times.
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stupot07
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Good old Tories want to scrap inheritance tax and lower the rise of benefits, which would hit 9 million people and cost single mothers £218 a year.
www.theguardian.com
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Jeremy Hunt weighing up inheritance tax cut in autumn statement
Chancellor considering move after fall in inflation and being told he will have more money to spend
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David O'Day
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the stop prescriptions if you don't take an unsuitable job is just monster like behaviour
pure evil
pure evil