StrettoBoy
Well-Known Member
That's just nonsense.
Of course there are a few far right members in exactly the same way that there are far left members of the Labour Party.
To castigate the whole party as far right is simply untrue.
The Conservatives are a far right party. Some people lose sight of this because the political compass has moved so far right over the last couple of decades. Their current position is more akin to the National Front in the 80/90s and Labour is about where the Tories were then.
About 30 normal ones left who are sidelined kind of similar to the other party?That's just nonsense.
Of course there are a few far right members in exactly the same way that there are far left members of the Labour Party.
To castigate the whole party as far right is simply untrue.
That's just nonsense.
Of course there are a few far right members in exactly the same way that there are far left members of the Labour Party.
To castigate the whole party as far right is simply untrue.
No. We need a huge Labour majority to undo the crap that these charlatans have overseen for 14 years.
Voting Tory, let alone joining them, has become real fringe behaviour.
I really don't believe that.
I say this as a middle of the road voter who under a different leader - possibly someone like Wes Streeting - would seriously be considering voting for Labour, as I have done in the past.
It is held to account at the ballot box if nothing else. Just like this shower of shit will be, and the longer they delay it the bigger the majority will be.I don't like any party to have a huge majority because there is then no way that the government of the day can properly be held to account, which I think is dangerous.
Are you a Tory member?
The thing about Meloni is she needs EU funding so she has to sometimes dial it back in a way Sunak doesn't.Exactly. I always like how the UK media refers to the Italian government as “hard right”, yet somehow the Tories aren’t. Meloni signed a deal with Albania following the Rwanda scheme.
Why on Earth do you say that?
Did you not read my last post?
I really don't believe that.
I say this as a middle of the road voter who under a different leader - possibly someone like Wes Streeting - would seriously be considering voting for Labour, as I have done in the past.
Wes Streeting, fucking hell
I think that's your problemWhy do you say that?
He strikes me as a perfectly decent moderate politician.
Wes Streeting, fucking hell
I think that's your problem
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Please explain your weird comment.
Do you think he's an extremist then?
I mean if you’re a Tory voter you’ve likely got a strong c**t threshold.
He’s about as far right as you get while still being Labour.
Why do you think I'm a Tory voter?
I'm a … voter who … has voted Conservative
Nothing he's ever said has ever made me think he's somebody I'd want to lead the party representing working people. Let's see how many of the Tory reforms to the structure of the NHS he reverses rather than accelerates when he inevitably becomes SoS.Please explain your weird comment.
Do you think he's an extremist then?
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You’re the only person saying I said dyed in the wool. You have voted Tory, you are a Tory voter. Like Tony.
Using your logic I am a Labour voter.
When you like your leaders with an extra bit of grift.I really don't believe that.
I say this as a middle of the road voter who under a different leader - possibly someone like Wes Streeting - would seriously be considering voting for Labour, as I have done in the past.
Yeah that’s true, I think the Covid recovery fund has kept her in line but also the influence of Forza Italia within the coalition.The thing about Meloni is she needs EU funding so she has to sometimes dial it back in a way Sunak doesn't.
Gove left wing Tory? If he is on the left of the Tories it proves they are far right.Yes.
To be clear on the throw away comment, Streeting is as close to a Tory as it gets in Labour go left wing people think he’s a c**t the same as left wing Tories like Gove are cunts. Hence if you can vote for a party with Gove in it, you can vote for a party lead by Streeting. But it really was just a throw away comment and not something to think too deeply on.
Gove left wing Tory? Of he is on the left of the Tories it proves they are far right.
In my book that makes him a moderate
That's just nonsense.
Of course there are a few far right members in exactly the same way that there are far left members of the Labour Party.
To castigate the whole party as far right is simply untrue.
‘Moderates’ as a memeThen your book is probably somewhat slanted to the right.
Look. At. The. Policies. They. Support. If it walks like a duck etc. etc.
Everyone who claims they are a "moderate" makes me suspicious. It's generally code for 'I don't know what I stand for so I'll vote for a personality I like instead'.
Try this, and see how you come out...
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Then your book is probably somewhat slanted to the right.
What utter garbage!
Your assertion is that because I happen to like a moderate Labour politician my political views are "somewhat slanted to the right".
Laughable.
He's not a 'moderate' Labour politician. What policies do you stand for mate, or is it just that you like how his suit fits?
What's laughable is someone who can't decide what they stand for claiming that they're politically "moderate".
It's usually bullshit, it just means that they basically don't know what they stand for. Prove me wrong, I've even given you a link to help you out.
I know exactly what I stand for and I have previously posted my views. If you can't be bothered to read and remember what I said then I'm not going to repeat it but it's there in black and white.
It's just a shame that my views aren't replicated by any one party.
No ones are.
That's true but I am normally torn as to whether to vote Labour or Conservative. I am going to wait until the election manifestos are out before deciding how to cast my vote.
If the election were held today my choice would be between casting aside my feelings about Starmer and voting Labour or voting LibDem. At the moment it's more likely to be the latter but we will see.
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