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Otis said:
Oh. Just looked it up.

I wonder who he means
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Bit blurry(!) but here's a nice list for you.

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CCFCSteve said:
Strange bunch MPs. Glad I never fancied being a researcher

ps I want to know what ‘odd things’ Rory Stewart wanted them to do. Pour milk in before the boiling water when making a cuppa ?
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I'm equally surprised by the Raab injunction. Is that a thing, or scurrilous gossip?
 
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PVA said:
Ben Wallace withdraws from the running.

Big surprise as he was seemingly front runner.

Seemed to be one of the less mental options so that's good news for Labour.
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He was the only competent one among them.

Truss would be the best as she is as incompetent as Johnson but also unable to cover it up. They would fall apart really quickly.
 
Otis

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Deleted member 9744 said:
He was the only competent one among them.

Truss would be the best as she is as incompetent as Johnson but also unable to cover it up. They would fall apart really quickly.
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Call me selfish, but I don't want another disaster appointment. I am quite the socialist in many ways, but I can't find myself wanting the Tories to fail even further in a new appointment, because that is going to be further damaging to the country.

I can't wish them to cock everything up further just so Labour get in.
 
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Otis said:
Call me selfish, but I don't want another disaster appointment. I am quite the socialist in many ways, but I can't find myself wanting the Tories to fail even further in a new appointment, because that is going to be further damaging to the country.

I can't wish them to cock everything up further just so Labour get in.
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I understand but under Truss I think it would be a very quick downfall.

Some of the others are really scary and potentially much worse than Johnson even.
 
Otis

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I understand but under Truss I think it would be a very quick downfall.

Some of the others are really scary and potentially much worse than Johnson even.
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I agree.

And I do want this government out as soon as humanly possible.

It's just such a mess at the moment and I feel that any new leader, no matter how bad they are, will be given at least a year in charge and I wonder just how much damage a bad un would do.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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CCFCSteve said:
Poor old dear, probably can’t get a word in due to her gobby lefty mate 😉

Love the fact that they’re obviously great mates whatever their leanings though



Agreed. Although also see where NW is coming from. The interesting thing will be how much was Boris haphazard spending commitments impacting Sunaks wider plans. By all accounts Sunak wanted all commitments to be funded by increase in taxes, was that because he didn’t believe they were good/best ways of spending public money..or he’s just fiscally tight ?? (probably a bit of both)

I’d hope that all contenders will set out their proper plans. It’s such a fine balance at the moment between trying to stem inflation and investing for growth. To try to reduce inflation pressure direct personal assistance might have to be parked (apart from those worst off) which won’t go down well in short term and not ideal if there could be an election soon.

I just want to see some innovative ideas and clear plans to get through what will be a tricky couple of years whoever’s in charge. My concern is they all just focus on pleasing their base
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First innovative idea - stop obsessing over growth and focus on fairer distribution of the wealth that already exists.

Economic growth that only really occurs for a handful of already rich people makes the situation worse than no growth at all.
 
JAM See

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Have a listen to 'Any Questions' from today (BBC sounds).

It came from a Devon constituency (55% vote for the incumbent Tory MP, 51% in favour of Brexit).

It's brutal.
 
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skybluetony176 said:
What gets me with solar is the lack of promotion from the government. Every business on every industrial estate in the UK should have solar on their roof. All that free space going to waste and in the working day they’ll use what they produce being a benefit to grid pressure, the businesses energy costs and also a chance to generate income over the weekend while closed. It needs the government to work with the private landlords to force the allowance for installation and work with the businesses to help with the investment costs through grants or lead in tariffs or a combination of both.

The government controls building standards, they could have been insisting that all new build’s residential and commercial have an element of solar in the construction for years now meaning all new properties are more energy efficient from the off.

Short term thinking again.
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I live on a hill and looking out of my upper windows I can see the roofs of hundreds of houses and I always think about the amount of acres there that could be generating energy going to waste.
 
Philosoraptor

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Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has announced he is standing for the Conservative Party leadership.

Mr Shapps told the Sunday Times he was ruling out a general election if he was successful in his bid to become prime minister.

www.bbc.co.uk

Boris Johnson resignation: Zahawi and Shapps enter Tory leadership race

The chancellor and transport secretary both launch bids to replace Boris Johnson as prime minister.
www.bbc.co.uk

That's got to be the quickest 'I am not suitable for the Tory Leadership' role since, well, Steve Baker saying he was going to run.

With the Tories, and their flavour of Liberalism, it is customary for new political leaders to seek their political mandate, not from the party, but from the electorate, within a short timeframe.

He's just ruled it out in the very next line. The ass.

Love these people.
 
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shmmeee said:
Hunt probably the best, comes with the added bonus of exponentially increasing the chances of more news readers saying c**t on live TV.
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Trouble is he's very much someone who thinks everything should be run by private enterprise and given a profit incentive because it leads to better performance. Even though it's never proven to be the case.

So expect even more public stuff being privatised if he got in, and the NHS would be very much at risk, either outright or through more covert outsourcing to private 'partners'.
 
Philosoraptor

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John Major, less than 18 months to call an election after taking over from Thatcher.
Theresa May, less than a year after taking over from Cameron.
Boris Johnson, less than 6 months after taking over from May.
 
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Philosorapter said:
John Major, less than 18 months to call an election after taking over from Thatcher.
Theresa May, less than a year after taking over from Cameron.
Boris Johnson, less than 6 months after taking over from May.
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Wasn't Major because the five years were up?
 
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