skybluetony176
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One of Mordaunts backers has just publicly switched to Sunak. Looks like the writing is on the wall.
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Sky Blue Pete
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Be great if the rump of racist party members resigned en masse. Fancy messing things up like they did after Johnson was forced to quit. Absolute disgrace to select Liz truss
shmmeee
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David O'Day
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brilliant
Brighton Sky Blue
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fernandopartridge
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How are Labour going to position themselves against him? Emily Thornberry going around talking about grandchildren 'paying off' the national debt this morning apparently.
David O'Day
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yep, a thin skinned austerity monster who is going hike taxes and slash spending in a cost of living crisis
Terry Gibson's perm
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Somebody has got to pay for his furlough scheme.
Yeah he's very thin skinned. Does not take well to questioning and there's a lot of attack lines for Labour to use against him
fernandopartridge
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It's already been paid for
Skyblueweeman
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On Thursday, I went to the gym and Liz Truss was PM. By the time I finished, we had no PM.
Today, I went to the gym and we had no PM. By the time I finished, Rishi Sunak is the new PM.
Just as a heads up, I'm planning on going to the gym again on Wednesday and Thursday so get betting on Rishi out on Wednesday lunchtime and a new PMM in on Thursday lunchtime.
Today, I went to the gym and we had no PM. By the time I finished, Rishi Sunak is the new PM.
Just as a heads up, I'm planning on going to the gym again on Wednesday and Thursday so get betting on Rishi out on Wednesday lunchtime and a new PMM in on Thursday lunchtime.
Give him a chance
. Agree though he does appear thin skinned which isnt an ideal trait to have as PM !There are no doubt some tough calls ahead. I just hope they’re made in as fair a way as possible and that he makes decisions in the countrys best interests, not to please some members of the Tory party
Although they’ve got to try to placate the markets after the Truss/Kwarteng shitshow hopefully he can somehow buy some goodwill/flexibility by being seen as a more sensible, credible PM. Bond yields have dropped significantly since Truss left which suggests there might be some leeway
Ultimately I’m just hoping for a period of stability as the last 12 months have been an absolute shambles.
Given that he told a group of Tory members that he wanted to take money from deprived areas and divert it to their well off rural constituencies I wouldn’t hold your breath on that!
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Philosoraptor
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The Matt Hancock moment.
Brings a tear to my eye.
Brings a tear to my eye.
You know me, ever the optimist
AOM
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duffer
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I detest the deliberate misuse of that phrase.
Efficiency, put simply, is input compared to output.
If you reduce inputs and keep the same outputs, then you're increasing efficiency.
If you reduce inputs and the outputs also reduce (like the "efficiencies" in the NHS, Police etc. etc.) then you're just cutting. Let's call it what it is, eh.
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Sort of agree but actually you need to think about outcomes, especially in things like the NHS, rather than outputs. It's not just about how much you do but whether you are doing the right things. But that takes some forward and joined up thinking which is something the Tories don't do.
shmmeee
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I have been told that this is Britain’s ‘Obama moment’
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Alan Sugar next then?
Brighton Sky Blue
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I was thinking Theo Paphitis
duffer
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Take your point, and I think we're coming from the same place, but an "efficiency" that results in worse outcomes in terms of obvious metrics like waiting lists and delays in A&E can't genuinely be framed as an efficiency. It's a cut.
When Tories talk about efficiencies they're usually really talking about cuts, imho.
Sky Blue Pete
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Great point
Sick Boy
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More like Simon Jordan.
skybluetony176
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So the good news 1) Boris’ bullshit got him nowhere for a change. 2) it’s a big moment and proud moment in UK history regardless of political leaning our first PM of colour should be something to celebrate. 3) if we’re going to be stuck with a Tory government for another two years the best outcome for the country was Sunak, the Tories can’t do any better than him but as we’ve seen over the past 4 years they can certainly do a lot worse. 4) Sunak is at least capable of pretending to be a grown up.
The bad news. Doesn’t look like we’re getting a GE anytime soon. However he’s got a lot to do to unify his party before he can even think about unifying the country and that’s going to be a tall ask. I wouldn’t rule out some of the nutters leaving the Tories and doing something really stupid like join the reform party sitting on the opposition benches, happened before with UKIP. I don’t think 2 years will be enough to sort his party out.
The bad news. Doesn’t look like we’re getting a GE anytime soon. However he’s got a lot to do to unify his party before he can even think about unifying the country and that’s going to be a tall ask. I wouldn’t rule out some of the nutters leaving the Tories and doing something really stupid like join the reform party sitting on the opposition benches, happened before with UKIP. I don’t think 2 years will be enough to sort his party out.
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David O'Day
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So the tories chose resounding defeat over crashing wipeout
Brighton Sky Blue
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2 years is a long time in politics. Denying the country an election despite changing PM not once but twice, who knows how it goes if he portrays economic credibility
rob9872
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On my ballot paper I had to vote for a party not a person. Perhaps yours was different? Or is that only when Brown takes over from Blair and you like the result?
fernandopartridge
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You vote for a personOn my ballot paper I had to vote for a party not a person. Perhaps yours was different? Or is that only when Brown takes over from Blair and you like the result?
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