Do you want to discuss boring politics? (34 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

He’s probably looking to vote BNP next time - probably the only party he hasn’t voted for yet

Speaking of new habits, you want to pop along to a union jolly tomorrow night?

 

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[skybluetony176]

My conscience is clear Tone. There was no vote for hard Brexit.

You can’t really be that stupid. You never owned your vote then is what you’re saying. It was in or out, you put your faith in the looney fringe of the Tories to interpretate what you meant when you voted leave. More fool you. When your kids are older you’ll do well to sell them that crock of shit in the same way children of the peace process see their parents politics for what they are. Good luck

 

[Grendel]

You can’t really be that stupid. You never owned your vote then is what you’re saying. It was in or out, you put your faith in the looney fringe of the Tories to interpretate what you meant when you voted leave. More fool you. When your kids are older you’ll do well to sell them that crock of shit in the same way children of the peace process see their parents politics for what they are. Good luck

So you think all children will go to the poorhouse for generations to come? Shall the next generation become celibate Tony to avoid the wasteland they face without Brussels looking after us?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You can’t really be that stupid. You never owned your vote then is what you’re saying. It was in or out, you put your faith in the looney fringe of the Tories to interpretate what you meant when you voted leave. More fool you. When your kids are older you’ll do well to sell them that crock of shit in the same way children of the peace process see their parents politics for what they are. Good luck

Interesting that millennials have basically been forgotten despite being not much older than Gen TikTok. For all the ranting at FP it isn't going to help-maybe join the Labour Party and go campaigning

 

[Grendel]

Interesting that millennials have basically been forgotten despite being not much older than Gen TikTok. For all the ranting at FP it isn't going to help-maybe join the Labour Party and go campaigning

I think he’s more an Ed Davy sort these days

 

[skybluetony176]

So you think all children will go to the poorhouse for generations to come? Shall the next generation become celibate Tony to avoid the wasteland they face without Brussels looking after us?

The country is a mess and it’s 100% your politics to blame. The fact that you want to joke about in a smarmy I think I’m an intellect way speaks volumes about you. Hopefully FP is saying, wait a minute, I’ve aligned myself with this guy.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think he’s more an Ed Davy sort these days

I don't think Tony owns a yoga mat

 

[Grendel]

The country is a mess and it’s 100% your politics to blame. The fact that you want to joke about in a smarmy I think I’m an intellect way speaks volumes about you. Hopefully FP is saying, wait a minute, I’ve aligned myself with this guy.

But these were your politics until you aligned to Mr Corbyn Tony

 

[skybluetony176]

But these were your politics until you aligned to Mr Corbyn Tony

Shameful isn’t it. I doubt you’ll ever be man enough to admit that though. You’ll substitute it with trying to be clever instead digging your heels in while thinking you’re being funny.

 

[Grendel]

Shameful isn’t it. I doubt you’ll ever be man enough to admit that though. You’ll substitute it with trying to be clever instead digging your heels in while thinking you’re being funny.

But I’m doing fine Tony. I want lower taxes so not happy about the last Hunt budget but I’ve no worries whatsoever financially - you need to have a lie down and chill out

 

[skybluetony176]

But I’m doing fine Tony. I want lower taxes so not happy about the last Hunt budget but I’ve no worries whatsoever financially - you need to have a lie down and chill out

And in that statement everything anyone needs to know about you and the type of person you are in the open.

Seriously FP what ever attracted you to siding with selfish pricks like this? Surely some bone in your left wing body must be screaming I’m siding with this guy! WTF am I thinking, maybe I need to think about this again. You’re lost in denial fella.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

And in that statement everything anyone needs to know about you and the type of person you are in the open.

Seriously FP what ever attracted you to siding with selfish pricks like this? Surely some bone in your left wing body must be screaming I’m siding with this guy! WTF am I thinking, maybe I need to think about this again. You’re lost in denial fella.

FP like others is capable of agreeing with someone in one respect but not another. I mean G's stance on Ukraine is the same as Corbyn's

 

[Grendel]

FP like others is capable of agreeing with someone in one respect but not another. I mean G's stance on Ukraine is the same as Corbyn's

As is his stance on the eu and railway nationalisation.

 

[JAM See]

Lovely little tete-a-tete between @fernandopartridge and @skybluetony176 developing on here.

You just knew it would be spoiled by a certain pitch invader.

 

[fernandopartridge]

And in that statement everything anyone needs to know about you and the type of person you are in the open.

Seriously FP what ever attracted you to siding with selfish pricks like this? Surely some bone in your left wing body must be screaming I’m siding with this guy! WTF am I thinking, maybe I need to think about this again. You’re lost in denial fella.

I'm not siding with anybody. Politics isn't a game of going with the team you like. I voted leave and I've given my reasons for it. That vote to leave was genuinely not for a hard brexit and pre referendum all the talk from the leave campaign was about anything but a hard brexit.
That said, I even said in 2016 on this board that I had misgivings about the way it would be implemented and they've been proven correct, in retrospect yes I maybe I should have gone with my gut but I've already made that admission ages ago.
It is not controversial to say that the time spent post 2016 on trying to overturn the result was a complete waste, is it? And that the time should have been spent doing everything possible to minimise the impact and avoid hard brexit?

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You can’t really be that stupid. You never owned your vote then is what you’re saying. It was in or out, you put your faith in the looney fringe of the Tories to interpretate what you meant when you voted leave. More fool you. When your kids are older you’ll do well to sell them that crock of shit in the same way children of the peace process see their parents politics for what they are. Good luck

If you think parents sit around with their kids, whatever their age, discussing intense political bollocks you're a very sad man.

 

[Grendel]

If you think parents sit around with their kids, whatever their age, discussing intense political bollocks you're a very sad man.

he’d have been telling them to kiss Farages backside a few years ago probably - no wonder they are traumatised

 

[skybluetony176]

I'm not siding with anybody. Politics isn't a game of going with the team you like. I voted leave and I've given my reasons for it. That vote to leave was genuinely not for a hard brexit and pre referendum all the talk from the leave campaign was about anything but a hard brexit.
That said, I even said in 2016 on this board that I had misgivings about the way it would be implemented and they've been proven correct, in retrospect yes I maybe I should have gone with my gut but I've already made that admission ages ago.
It is not controversial to say that the time spent post 2016 on trying to overturn the result was a complete waste, is it? And that the time should have been spent doing everything possible to minimise the impact and avoid hard brexit?

This is what I really don’t get. If you truly believe and I do mean truly believe that you’ve literally had your vote stolen from you, I mean literally. You should be the angriest person on here instead you’re blaming remain politicians who didn’t lie to you and certainly didn’t steel your vote from you. Just think about how stupid that is. How can the baddies and the people to blame be the people who didn’t lie to you and didn’t steel your vote. Whatever possessed (and possessed is clearly the right word) to think that the people who were going to deliver leave were ever going to keep their word. Jesus, Boris Johnson was the head of the official campaign, the signs were all their.

 

[skybluetony176]

he’d have been telling them to kiss Farages backside a few years ago probably - no wonder they are traumatised

Again, you’re an actual grown man. Still you’ve got your racist fan boy on side .

 

[Grendel]

Again, you’re an actual grown man. Still you’ve got your racist fan boy on side .

tony it’s you that’s actually acted like a spoilt child - “the baddies” i mean FFS

Whose my racist fan boy?

 

[skybluetony176]

tony it’s you that’s actually acted like a spoilt child - “the baddies” i mean FFS

Whose my racist fan boy?

You’ve gone from fantasising about me in homoerotic situations to fantasising about my children kissing a grown man’s bottom, they’re 13 and 15 you pedo. You’ve got some serious issues.

 

[Ian1779]

This is what I really don’t get. If you truly believe and I do mean truly believe that you’ve literally had your vote stolen from you, I mean literally. You should be the angriest person on here instead you’re blaming remain politicians who didn’t lie to you and certainly didn’t steel your vote from you. Just think about how stupid that is. How can the baddies and the people to blame be the people who didn’t lie to you and didn’t steel your vote. Whatever possessed (and possessed is clearly the right word) to think that the people who were going to deliver leave were ever going to keep their word. Jesus, Boris Johnson was the head of the official campaign, the signs were all their.

Remain MP’s didn’t lie to us, but once the result was cast they had a responsibility to get the best possible outcome. They failed to do this - instead attempting to implement a re-run that would have never ever been accepted. Corbyn and Swindon were chiefly culpable as respective leaders of their parties, but so was every politician that suggested that the only side that had to move in the negotiations was the winning one.

 

[skybluetony176]

Remain MP’s didn’t lie to us, but once the result was cast they had a responsibility to get the best possible outcome. They failed to do this - instead attempting to implement a re-run that would have never ever been accepted. Corbyn and Swindon were chiefly culpable as respective leaders of their parties, but so was every politician that suggested that the only side that had to move in the negotiations was the winning one.

Politics failed obvious. But the starting point was thinking the people who campaigned for leave were capable of keeping their promises. The speed they went from no one is talking about leaving the single market to out means out was less than 12 hours. Again, the clues were all there. You couldn’t vote leave without putting your faith in Boris Johnson and that was never going to end well.

 

[shmmeee]

Remain MP’s didn’t lie to us, but once the result was cast they had a responsibility to get the best possible outcome. They failed to do this - instead attempting to implement a re-run that would have never ever been accepted. Corbyn and Swindon were chiefly culpable as respective leaders of their parties, but so was every politician that suggested that the only side that had to move in the negotiations was the winning one.

Same questions to you. Who exactly are “Remain MPs”? Which whip do they follow? What legislation can they propose?

 

[Ian1779]

Same questions to you. Who exactly are “Remain MPs”? Which whip do they follow? What legislation can they propose?

I don’t think they took a register at the peoples vote march- but I am sure that will give you a rough idea to start.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Same questions to you. Who exactly are “Remain MPs”? Which whip do they follow? What legislation can they propose?

These charming individuals I suppose

 

[Skybluefaz]

 

[Ian1779]

“Having asked the electorate for a view by way of the referendum, we have to respect the result- Kier Starmer 2018

Keir Starmer: ‘We cannot allow Labour to break apart over Brexit’

"In the aftermath of the local elections and particularly the EU elections, there are many in the Labour party who feel we need to be very clear about a second referendum and about making the case for Remain.” - Kier Starmer 2019

EXCL Sir Keir Starmer calls for Labour to back Remain in new EU referendum

And they wonder why there is a lack of trust in politicians.

 

[Skybluefaz]

What is Nigel's Brexit, cos once upon a time he was in support of the Swiss approach?

 

[David O'Day]

What is Nigel's Brexit, cos once upon a time he was in support of the Swiss approach?

His Brexit is always slightly harder than what is on offer, this allows him to grift off it in perpetuity

 

[PVA]

What is Nigel's Brexit, cos once upon a time he was in support of the Swiss approach?

It's whatever makes him the most money.

Whatever he can use to whip up gullible fools into following him (and parting with their cash).

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It's whatever makes him the most money.

Whatever he can use to whip up gullible fools into following him (and parting with their cash).

He was very happy to do it in 2019 when he pulled his single issue party out of a whole load of constituencies because of a grubby deal with the Clown. Lots of candidates having already paid their deposits

 

[skybluetony176]

What is Nigel's Brexit, cos once upon a time he was in support of the Swiss approach?

He’s been getting trolled with clips of him saying just that.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Again, you’re an actual grown man. Still you’ve got your racist fan boy on side .

Are you talking about me?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Are you talking about me?

ADM I assume