alexccfc99
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The ‘Red Wall’ MP’s won’t vote for it, the feeling amongst a lot of them is that they owe their seat to him
If he joins Reform before the next GE I can see a lot of them defecting
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If he joins Reform before the next GE I can see a lot of them defecting
skybluetony176
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You wouldn’t put it past him either. This is not the sort of challenge to his fragile ego he’s used to or expects. It wouldn’t take much eye fluttering from Reform, his ego would love it. Couple that with his hatred and not hidden desire to take down Sunak it really shouldn’t surprise anyone if it happens. Watching the Rees-Mogg interview on C4 News tonight the interview ended with questions on the possibility of Boris defecting. It’s almost as if the writing is on the wall. We’ll see.
clint van damme
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Yeah. As others have said, it's Trumpian the way hea behaving.
skybluetony176
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They also voted unanimously on the findings. The idea that it was all Harriet Harmans doing as the likes of Rees-Mogg are trying to promote is ridiculous.
Sky Blue Pete
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The chair being included in those two Labour members, of course, so doesn't vote unless the vote is tied.
clint van damme
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Doesn't parliament have to sign off on the committee?
David O'Day
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That would be beautiful as it would kill the tories off for a decade
It'll be like labour in the 80s
stupot07
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All 4 of the conservatives on the committee are Brexiteers
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stupot07
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They do, and they did. They didn't vote on it because no one objected.
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Sky Blue Pete
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I’m happy it was a mistake for Harriet Harman not to recuse herself for perception but come on 4 breciteers on the committee
Sky Blue Pete
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Bloody reform
Reform what???
Reform what???
duffer
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Pete, as ever you are a man of reason and I know where you and others are coming from with this.
The truth is though, that I can't 'engage' with this version of the Labour party. They are becoming less and less aligned to the things that are important to me; equality of opportunity, a fairer distribution of wealth, proper support for the welfare state and NHS, protection of the environment (honesty from the leader would be nice too!).
Do I hold my nose and vote for a party I no longer believe in because the Tories are even worse, or do I hold true to my principles and vote for someone else (or indeed no one)?
I'm very much of the opinion that until we get some form of PR back on the table we're all hostages to two parties, neither of whom are particularly trustworthy, and both of whom see politics as a game to be won rather than as an instrument for genuine change.
Neither party offers a compelling vision of a Britain that I want my kids to grow up in. It is hugely depressing.
David O'Day
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so he has far less support than he wants you to think
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clint van damme
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Former Eton Master Pens Brutal Letter Admitting 'Failure' In Educating 'Entitled' Tories
John Claughton suggests ex-pupils Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Kwasi Kwarteng have damaged the “very fabric” of the country.
skybluetony176
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Exactly what he did after Truss was ousted. Him and his cult tried to blag he had or would have the numbers to get on the ballot paper knowing full well he didn’t and wouldn’t. Presumably in the hope that Sunak would buy it, pull out leaving Boris the only candidate and therefore take the job by default.
clint van damme
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Sweet Jesus
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What chance have we got?
Ex-police watchdog chief Michael Lockwood charged with raping girl under 16 and indecent assault
The 64-year-old stepped down from his role at the IOPC in December after it emerged he was the subject of a police probe into a historical allegation.
What chance have we got?
skybluetony176
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A very hypothetical question but what happens to the 90 day suspension now he’s resigned?
Suppose he stood in one of the by-elections as and independent or a member of another party and then got elected to parliament. Was the slate wiped clean (so to speak) because he resigned or would he be instantly subject to a 90 day suspension triggering a by-election? If he wants to continue his political career it must be the former? Or is the real reason Nads hasn’t officially resigned is to let 90 days pass from the vote on Monday, then resign leaving Boris to run for her seat? I would think if he’s still a member of the conservatives he could in theory be selected to run by the local party and run as the Tory candidate, he wouldn’t even have to resign the party and run as an independent or join another party. Got a feeling that this isn’t over yet. Sunak could be in for a rough ride.
Suppose he stood in one of the by-elections as and independent or a member of another party and then got elected to parliament. Was the slate wiped clean (so to speak) because he resigned or would he be instantly subject to a 90 day suspension triggering a by-election? If he wants to continue his political career it must be the former? Or is the real reason Nads hasn’t officially resigned is to let 90 days pass from the vote on Monday, then resign leaving Boris to run for her seat? I would think if he’s still a member of the conservatives he could in theory be selected to run by the local party and run as the Tory candidate, he wouldn’t even have to resign the party and run as an independent or join another party. Got a feeling that this isn’t over yet. Sunak could be in for a rough ride.
skybluetony176
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They often hide in plain sight if the opportunity is there. Just look at all the world of entertainment. Savile, Harris, Glitter, Schofield. Then there’s the culture within the police force.Sweet Jesus
Ex-police watchdog chief Michael Lockwood charged with raping girl under 16 and indecent assault
The 64-year-old stepped down from his role at the IOPC in December after it emerged he was the subject of a police probe into a historical allegation.
What chance have we got?
Sky Blue Pete
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WowSweet Jesus
Ex-police watchdog chief Michael Lockwood charged with raping girl under 16 and indecent assault
The 64-year-old stepped down from his role at the IOPC in December after it emerged he was the subject of a police probe into a historical allegation.
What chance have we got?
You know thought that the line between good and evil is drawn between each of us and so this shouldn’t come as a surprise.
Was reading a parole decision about pitchfork and how he was recalled to prison and later it was found there was ok evidence to make that decision
If we assume a person because of their role or background is either telling the truth or lying purely based on their role or background we will continually see issues like this
Evidential based decision making is what we need
We won’t get it though
skybluetony176
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So Johnson has a new job writing a column in the Mail starting Saturday and guess what. He’s broke the rules again. Given his position as a former minister he’s required to apply for approval before accepting the job. No suggestion that it wouldn’t have been approved but the fact is he just didn’t bother applying for the approval and accepted the job. Once again he believes that the usual parliamentary rules don’t apply to him. But he’s the real victim.
fernandopartridge
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This really is disgusting from the leader's speech writer, straight up racism.
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Should be sacked, no debateThis really is disgusting from the leader's speech writer, straight up racism.
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chiefdave
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Why was Sunak watching the first ball of the ashes over 2 hours after it happened? Almost like he doesn’t give a shit but his PR team told him to do itThis really is disgusting from the leader's speech writer, straight up racism.
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David O'Day
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Another Tory resigns as an MP, this is the coke and sex offences one
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David O'Day
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Also the person who has been storing the Tory party video's until now? Well played
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SomersetSB
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At least we have less than a year left of these crooks and liars in government, can’t wait for next May!!!
skybluetony176
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Shit party too. May as well not had it.
David O'Day
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tories innit
Flying Fokker
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And to think people were being fined for doing less. No scruples.
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clint van damme
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I really hope they go after the people responsible for embezzling money from the furlough scheme and PPE contracts now.
There are people who really should be in jail.
There are people who really should be in jail.
skybluetony176
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Can’t see it in this parliament. Too many Tory cronies involved for the Tories to do it. It might be for the next government to do it. You would think they would for political gain too given that it’s largely Tory cronies who benefited, especially where PPE is concerned. The next government needs to seriously look at who was given a golden visa and start taking them back. All these Russians with Putin connections should be the starting point with a full deployment of the unexplained wealth laws too.
dutchman
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Wouldn't the best time be just before a general election?