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[clint van damme]

haha, probably could be applicable to either, however Johnson still probably doesn’t think he did anything wrong (in his life)

And I don't think Hancock sees himself in politics again, Johnson definitely does so I'm sure Hancock is happy to do anything he can to prevent that happening.
Which if it did, would ironically be a bigger service to the British public than anything he did when he was a minister.

 

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[skybluetony176]

Which one Johnson or Hancock?

The two don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

 

[skybluetony176]

And I don't think Hancock sees himself in politics again, Johnson definitely does so I'm sure Hancock is happy to do anything he can to prevent that happening.
Which if it did, would ironically be a bigger service to the British public than anything he did when he was a minister.

People seem to forget that MHancock didn’t do nothing that Boris, everyone that apparently worked at Downing Street or Tory HQ including the cronies he’s put in the HOL did. At least MHancock eventually found the self worth to resign. Something let’s not forget Boris expected credit for at the time. I don’t think you can blame him for being bitter all things considered. It’s just a shame it took bitterness for him to tell the truth.

 

[CCFCSteve]

People seem to forget that MHancock didn’t do nothing that Boris, everyone that apparently worked at Downing Street or Tory HQ including the cronies he’s put in the HOL did. At least MHancock eventually found the self worth to resign. Something let’s not forget Boris expected credit for at the time. I don’t think you can blame him for being bitter all things considered. It’s just a shame it took bitterness for him to tell the truth.

Let’s not forget he was rattling his assistant/colleague behind his wifes back whilst telling the country they couldnt see loved ones. He's as bad as Johnson in my book. Johnson should’ve sacked him but couldn’t… probably because his own misdemeanours !

 

[skybluetony176]

Surely makes a mockery out of the raising interest rates to stave off inflation. Never mind hold your nerve, the government needs to grow a backbone

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Might be part of a bigger play but potentially MHancock has grown a set of principles, currently giving evidence to the Covid enquiry. He’s finally admitted that the government didn’t know if care homes had the the right protection describing the situation as terrible. He’s apologised directly to the families present and said that the government was more concerned about having enough body bags and where were we going to bury them (let the bodies pile high said Boris lad). He seems to be treating the enquiry as a confession.

If only there had been some way to ensure care homes had that protection. Some sort of tendering process that matched those capable of producing the necessary goods to those who needed them.

But due to a failure to initiate such a system ministers were forced to just ask their mates and local pub landlords if they could help and reluctantly having to give them the money.

 

[PVA]

So Sunak is going to try and 'but Corbyn' his way to an election win.

13 years and this is all they've got. They're fucked, hopefully for a long time.

 

[Ian1779]

Another banger from Kier….

 

[fernandopartridge]

So Sunak is going to try and 'but Corbyn' his way to an election win.

13 years and this is all they've got. They're fucked, hopefully for a long time.

Well to be fair it's the least Starmer deserves, he joined in on the Corbyn character assassination and the ball is rebounding. Neither of the two parties have any answers at all I'm afraid.

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[PVA]

Well to be fair it's the least Starmer deserves, he joined in on the Corbyn character assassination and the ball is rebounding. Neither of the two parties have any answers at all I'm afraid.

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Somehow I don't think he'll be losing any sleep over it.

They've tried it before and the best they could come up with was his school turned private after he joined and he had a beer once.

 

[skybluetony176]

So Sunak is going to try and 'but Corbyn' his way to an election win.

13 years and this is all they've got. They're fucked, hopefully for a long time.

He really has run out of ideas. Neither him or Starmer have any character. Prepare to see the opinion polls not move one way or the other.

 

[David O'Day]

Another banger from Kier….

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why should kids who's parents can easily afford meals get free meals? help those who need help and spend the rest where it is actually needed

 

[fernandopartridge]

Somehow I don't think he'll be losing any sleep over it.

They've tried it before and the best they could come up with was his school turned private after he joined and he had a beer once.

Well yes, he's a shameless liar so why would he

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[David O'Day]

He really has run out of ideas. Neither him or Starmer has a personality. Prepare to see the opinion polls not move one way or the other.

is that wise given his ex boss?

 

[skybluetony176]

 

[Ian1779]

why should kids who's parents can easily afford meals get free meals? help those who need help and spend the rest where it is actually needed

If you provide universal school meals in Primary school then you can support families and young children in adopting good eating habits early on.

 

[David O'Day]

If you provide universal school meals in Primary school then you can support families and young children in adopting good eating habits early on.

so you spend the money on food for kids who are likely eating well instead of other areas of the education system

the richer kids are likely eating much better diets than the poorer kids are

when a budget is finite it makes no sense to spend money on helping those who don't need the help

 

[Ian1779]

so you spend the money on food for kids who are likely eating well instead of other areas of the education system

the richer kids are likely eating much better diets than the poorer kids are

when a budget is finite it makes no sense to spend money on helping those who don't need the help

And how exactly will you do that? Means testing?

The fact is that the difference in providing for primary kids universally as opposed to going through a pointless process (wasting other resources) will end up being negligible.

But we can’t have any hope for the kids can we? As long as we keep the fiscal rules happy.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Thames Water in trouble what a shame for the overseas funds that own most of it.

 

[shmmeee]

so you spend the money on food for kids who are likely eating well instead of other areas of the education system

the richer kids are likely eating much better diets than the poorer kids are

when a budget is finite it makes no sense to spend money on helping those who don't need the help

You do both. There’s a culture behind food you lack currently as well that feeds into adulthood. A bunch of kids eating basically cookies and Radnor Fizz for lunch each day isn’t how you tackle an obesity epidemic. That’s before you even get to impact on learning.

FSM/PP doesn’t come close to reaching the kids it’s needs to and lack of buy in means the offerings are generally pretty poor. Picking the gold standard here but compare Japan to us.

This is “charge for the NHS” type thinking.

 

[Seaside-Skyblue]

And how exactly will you do that? Means testing?

The fact is that the difference in providing for primary kids universally as opposed to going through a pointless process (wasting other resources) will end up being negligible.

But we can’t have any hope for the kids can we? As long as we keep the fiscal rules happy.

This is actually a fair point, there possibly is an admin burden on deciphering which kids would get it and those that don't which may eat into any cost savings it would intend on achieving. Probably going off on a tangent here but I also think it helps improve equality too and goes a small way of (for want of a better way to describe...) leveling things out from a social class perspective. I remember being the kid with free meals and I felt a little inferior to the kids with packed lunches as even then I knew it was because I was from a poorer household - and I also had to get my dinner separately from them and it wasn't an inclusive setup. Not looking for a violin but reflecting on it, I think there's definitely wider benefits than just cost.

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[shmmeee]

So what do we think Farage had had his accounts frozen for? Something foreign government related is my guess.

 

[chiefdave]

So what do we think Farage had had his accounts frozen for? Something foreign government related is my guess.

Russians would be the obvious one. Of course with Farage it could all be complete bollocks, he'll probably have a PayPal up soon asking for donations

 

[clint van damme]

So what do we think Farage had had his accounts frozen for? Something foreign government related is my guess.

The establishment are trying to silence the anti establishment banker with a Coutts account and links to Russia, if they come for him they could come for you!! (Except most of us aren't Putin shills!).

 

[skybluetony176]

I was reading up on PEP’s and I think Ferage is overstating his importance. When he was an MEP he would have been classified as a PEP under UK law but his PEP status would have elapsed 12 months after he stopped being an MEP under UK law. It’s more likely he’s classed as “guilty” by association to a PEP which apparently is the other way PEP laws in the UK can affect an individual. My guess is it’s Trump related.

It’s either that or it’s nothing to do with PEP status either his or anyone else’s and it’s related to criminal activity.

 

[skybluetony176]

The establishment are trying to silence the anti establishment banker with a Coutts account and links to Russia, if they come for him they could come for you!! (Except most of us aren't Putin shills!).

Uber capitalist bankers are now woke warriors seems to be his latest take.

 

[SBAndy]

So what do we think Farage had had his accounts frozen for? Something foreign government related is my guess.

I’d be amazed if there’s not a very thorough NCA investigation taking place in the background. Undoubtedly more to come on this.

 

[skybluetony176]

I’d be amazed if there’s not a very thorough NCA investigation taking place in the background. Undoubtedly more to come on this.

WITCH HUNT!

Getting in early.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I thought he just had an Intelligent Finance current account...

 

[shmmeee]

WITCH HUNT!

Getting in early.

And you’re already late. All the paid shill accounts are out on this claiming freedom of speech or something. Clearly getting out ahead of a story.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Surely makes a mockery out of the raising interest rates to stave off inflation. Never mind hold your nerve, the government needs to grow a backbone

Absolute cunxxs

 

[skybluetony176]

An overview of the Ferage story

Opinion: Nigel Farage’s Brexit revenge conspiracy theory is not what it seems

No bank is obliged to give anyone facilities if it doesn’t wish to – the same as if Farage was barred from a pub or banned from a shop, writes Sean O’Grady

www.independent.co.uk

He apparently has an interesting choice in bank. I’m sure a patriot like him pays ALL his taxes in the spirit of the system but the bank he apparently uses seems to be the bank of choice if you’re involved tax avoidance schemes.

 

[chiefdave]

Genius plan, there's only 165K jobs they can't fill in the care sector

A gang of Tory MPs is trying to force Rishi Sunak to stop foreign staff taking jobs in care homes - despite a huge number of vacancies.

The New Conservatives Group on Monday will demand the struggling PM adopt their extreme plan for immigration.

 

[clint van damme]

Genius plan, there's only 165K jobs they can't fill in the care sector

They need sectioning for this, what absolute morons.

 

[PVA]

Yes I saw that. It’s disgusting really and would clearly be an absolute disaster.

No surprise to see the group contains Anderson and Gullis.

I think it’s just a group of red wallers desperate to cling onto their seats.