Do you want to discuss boring politics? (28 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

Oh come on. The media landscape if it’s that biased will oppose Starmer anyway

He’s really just Cameron mK2 - someone will really no interest in politics and just there to get the job and make money afterwards

Whatever you think of Blair and brown they were politicians to be admired for some conviction and drive

Every indicator is that the tories will digger a huge defeat - yet Starmer seems to just align to Tory type politics. He’s a very poor leader.

I didn’t say biased. I said difficult. Blair in 97 had no 24hr news let alone social media. Image management in 2023 is a minefield.

 

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[Grendel]

I didn’t say biased. I said difficult. Blair in 97 had no 24hr news let alone social media. Image management in 2023 is a minefield.

I think Blair would have achieved it in 2023 - Corbyn managed 42% share in his first election - it was only the implosion of the Lib Dems and the FPP system that saved May

 

[shmmeee]

I think Blair would have achieved it in 2023 - Corbyn managed 42% share in his first election - it was only the implosion of the Lib Dems and the FPP system that saved May

I think he would too, but he’d have found image management a lot harder and probably wouldn’t have been able to project as easily. But also, as I said, he was a better politician.

 

[clint van damme]

How can you be simultaneously convinced of your unassailable poll lead yet terrified of the opposition

Labour to omit funding of social care reform from manifesto and scale back Lords plans

Dismay as key proposals are downsized in order to make election offer to voters ‘bombproof’

www.theguardian.com

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I realise it's not why theyve done this but I have no problem with putting this on hold.
This is such a huge issue we can't keep ripping up social care policy everytime we change government and starting again.

We need something coherent and long term so it needs to be cross party, not that that did HS2 much good.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I realise it's not why theyve done this but I have no problem with putting this on hold.
This is such a huge issue we can't keep ripping up social care policy everytime we change government and starting again.

We need something coherent and long term so it needs to be cross party, not that that did HS2 much good.

There isn't a social care policy, it's literally just left to the market as it has been forever. You can't address some of the problems in the health service without addressing social care. It'll cost more in the long run not to do anything about it.

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[clint van damme]

There isn't a social care policy, it's literally just left to the market as it has been forever. You can't address some of the problems in the health service without addressing social care. It'll cost more in the long run not to do anything about it.

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There's a cross party committee working on it. I heard one of its members interviewed, I couldn't help but think they were using is as a vehicle for creeping privatisation.

Social care definitely has to come under the umbrella of the health service.

 

[skybluetony176]

Peter Bone facing suspension and recall after being found guilty by an independent panel of bullying and sexual harassment. Possibly another by election coming up.

 

[David O'Day]

Peter Bone facing suspension and recall after being found guilty by an independent panel of bullying and sexual harassment. Possibly another by election coming up.

shock

 

[fernandopartridge]

shock

His name was always going to land him in trouble

 

[David O'Day]

His name was always going to land him in trouble

always the ones you most suspect

 

[Ian1779]

Peter Bone facing suspension and recall after being found guilty by an independent panel of bullying and sexual harassment. Possibly another by election coming up.

Where’s the recall petition going to be? I can sign this one.

 

[skybluetony176]

Where’s the recall petition going to be? I can sign this one.

Think it has to be voted on in the commons first to uphold the recommendations of the independent inquiry.

 

[shmmeee]

Philosraptor and FP must have forgotten to post this one, no worries lads.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Philosraptor and FP must have forgotten to post this one, no worries lads.

I've not seen it - does it not back up my point from yesterday about the squeamishness in relation to policies?

 

[shmmeee]

I've not seen it - does it not back up my point from yesterday about the squeamishness in relation to policies?

Im not sure any poll on its own mean anything which was my real point. Cons got a slight conference bump, so did Labour. Trends suggest they’re well ahead of where they need to be at this point and the gap will likely close over the next year as it always does pre election. There’s nothing to suggest anything other than a heavy Labour win ATM.

 

[SBAndy]

Inflation still stubborn primarily due to rising petrol prices. Cheers OPEC.

 

[clint van damme]

Inflation still stubborn primarily due to rising petrol prices. Cheers OPEC.

With what's going on in the Middle East I doubt things are going to get better anytime soon.

 

[SBAndy]

With what's going on in the Middle East I doubt things are going to get better anytime soon.

Correct. The fact this is backward looking, though, negates the immediate effect of what we’ve seen the last week.

This is the argument politicians need to use for the Net Zero drive, it’d be far more effective as a means of convincing people to opt for renewables and goods powered by renewables.

 

[shmmeee]

Correct. The fact this is backward looking, though, negates the immediate effect of what we’ve seen the last week.

This is the argument politicians need to use for the Net Zero drive, it’d be far more effective as a means of convincing people to opt for renewables and goods powered by renewables.

Literally. Why put our economy in the hands of fundamentalists and tyrants?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Literally. Why put our economy in the hands of fundamentalists and tyrants?

Um

 

[fernandopartridge]

Correct. The fact this is backward looking, though, negates the immediate effect of what we’ve seen the last week.

This is the argument politicians need to use for the Net Zero drive, it’d be far more effective as a means of convincing people to opt for renewables and goods powered by renewables.

Exactly. It's a national security issue imo.

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[fernandopartridge]

I thought this was interesting, just show that the UK is expensive despite a falling standard of living



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[skybluetony176]

I thought this was interesting, just show that the UK is expensive despite a falling standard of living



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And then they pay corporation tax at about 1% by using loopholes and clever accounting. Taking the piss twice.

 

[shmmeee]

Handy page keeping track of what Labours actual current policies are

Labour policy tracker: Full list of new (and ditched) pledges that could shape manifesto - LabourList

Labour’s decision to ditch a string of policies in recent years has sparked significant attention and controversy, but…

labourlist.org

 

[clint van damme]

Handy page keeping track of what Labours actual current policies are

Labour policy tracker: Full list of new (and ditched) pledges that could shape manifesto - LabourList

Labour’s decision to ditch a string of policies in recent years has sparked significant attention and controversy, but…

labourlist.org

The environmental policy is very wide ranging, I wonder how much detail they've got behind it at the moment?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Handy page keeping track of what Labours actual current policies are

Labour policy tracker: Full list of new (and ditched) pledges that could shape manifesto - LabourList

Labour’s decision to ditch a string of policies in recent years has sparked significant attention and controversy, but…

labourlist.org

Updated as the wind changes

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[alexccfc99]

Still registered to vote at my mums address in Tamworth and voted Red for the first time today - Will be a very close call by all accounts

 

[JAM See]

Still registered to vote at my mums address in Tamworth and voted Red for the first time today - Will be a very close call by all accounts

How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

Just wondering how many elections you've got in the bag where you haven't voted red.

*Edit* Also, if you don't mind sharing, what colour do you normally vote?

 

[alexccfc99]

How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

Just wondering how many elections you've got in the bag bag where you haven't voted red.

*Edit* Also, if you don't mind sharing, what colour do you normally vote?

I’m 23 mate - Lived in Tamworth most of my life until 4 years ago when I moved away for studying, live in Leeds currently but was still registered to vote in Tamworth and I am home for a few days so thought I’d go along

I actually registered to vote in 2019 but I never sent off for my postal poll card in time, (so in fairness today was my first time voting either)

However I did intend on voting Blue in 2019, as I’ve matured and spent more time living away opinions have changed - that combined with various local issues in Tamworth swayed me to vote red

 

[clint van damme]

It's gone under the radar a bit due to events in the ME, but the covid enquiry is getting pretty juicy.

Poor old Rishi - Dr. Death!

 

[skybluetony176]

Didn’t think that Labour could win Dorries old seat but they have (took Tamworth too). Even by by-election standards that’s a big win. It was supposed to be the safest Tory seat in the country IIRC.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Depressing.



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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Rishi, time to go
Rishi Richie time to go

Continuing not to call a general election while also having no idea of how to improve the country is simple negligence.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Rishi, time to go
Rishi Richie time to go

Continuing not to call a general election while also having no idea of how to improve the country is simple negligence.

You could argue that's been the case for 13 years

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[fernandopartridge]

Didn’t think that Labour could win Dorries old seat but they have (took Tamworth too). Even by by-election standards that’s a big win. It was supposed to be the safest Tory seat in the country IIRC.

I am surprised they've won both. Underwhelmed by Starmer but nevertheless good that two Tories are out.

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