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CCFCSteve said:
If they want to be out of office for another 5 years
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I honestly don't know how the nutter ideas fly if in opposition - hopefully not enough(!) but if things aren't all sunlit uplands with Starmer (and it's unlikely world conditions will allow for that) then who knows?
 
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CCFCSteve

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Deleted member 5849 said:
I honestly don't know how the nutter ideas fly if in opposition - hopefully not enough(!) but if things aren't all sunlit uplands with Starmer (and it's unlikely world conditions will allow for that) then who knows?
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Fair point. If it’s tough times economically anything can happen. Gut feel is we’ll hopefully be through the worst of it (in terms of inflation, small recession maybe) by the time of next election or shortly after
 
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skybluetony176 said:


You would think that she’ll be out on her ear after this gag alone.
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She'll keep upping it until Sunak is left with no choice and that happens. That's her gameplan. Get sacked and make a leadership challenge. It's why she resigned from the last government.
 
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SBT said:
Unless there is some large outbreak of violence instigated by the pro-Palestinian marchers she can use to justify her rhetoric of “hate” then the events of the day are going to reflect terribly on her and she might not make it to the Rwanda decision on Wednesday - she must be keeping her fingers crossed.
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Narrator: She did not make it
 
Grendel

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so she is sacked and David Cameron returns - lol lets get Boris back as well
 
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Such a lack of talent that he has to bring back David Cameron, who has openly criticised him recently. And Cleverly, Liz Truss' loyal supporter, as Home Secretary!
 
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SBT

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Bringing in David Cameron to shore up the government’s credibility is just incredible stuff. Was Sunak offering around a cabinet job at the Cenotaph yesterday?
 
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CCFCSteve

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Might be a sensible move….getting rid of Bravermann is at least. If Sunaks trying to show he wants to bring the party back towards the centre then interesting. Too little too late though. Said to my mate and maybe on here, his chance was a big clear out of certain individuals when he became PM
 
shmmeee

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Sick Boy said:
He would be a saner choice than any of the other potential candidates, which is probably what will rule him out!
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For you maybe. He’s the arch Remainer, also the architect of austerity, seen by a lot of Tories as the beginning of their downfall. It would be like getting Blair back for Labour. The voters who went Cameron last time were a mix of working class Labour supporters sick of immigration, and middle class types who wanted a stable economy and believed in the environment. And he still didn’t get a majority until the LDs fucked it and Labour had Milliband.

Plus he’d have to get elected really, which is easier said than done for a Tory right now, even in safe seats. Then he’d have to get a selectorate and PCP by and large devoid of all rationality post 2019 to elect him leader.

I reckon the Tories do what Labour did and go and retreat into the comfort of ideological purity and populism in opposition for a bit. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Farage or the like get pushed before someone like Cameron. Heavily depends what the party looks like post election though and which MPs are left.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
We've literally had Truss and Johnson in the last two years!
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Truss was clearly incompetent but her legacy footprint is tiny compared to her predecessors. Johnson is an awful human being and was the worst possible PM to have during a deadly pandemic, but I’m not convinced that, say, Theresa May would have done much better, and he does at least have obvious skills as a political communicator.

Cameron by contrast was a disaster on economic policy (austerity), social policy (riots), and foreign policy (Brexit, China, Syria) in ways that are still fucking us over today and will do for generations. On top of that he’s not even a good politician, managing to destroy his party’s reputation, his coalition partners’ reputation and his own reputation in the space of two terms. The guy’s idea for everything was to have a referendum on it, a PM without any sense of what it means to be a leader.
 
David O'Day

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if bringing back the PM now famous for being ripped to shreads by Danny Dyer on TV then they are fucked
 
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