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[hamertime]

The EU wouldn't have to insist on it if we hadn't left.

 

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[skybluetony176]

There is nothing to exploit, all vehicles are checked for illegal goods at the port as normal.

The checks are purely to check the paper trail at the clearing agent which is something the EU has insisted on not the UK.

The checks couldn’t be done at the port as it would get clogged up.

The EU hasn’t insisted on anything. That’s just how it’s done anywhere in the world on shipments from somewhere else in the world with the exception of inside the EU. If something is shipped from Australia into the UK under the free trade agreement we have with them you still have to use the same system and processes we volunteered to use on EU shipments by voting leave. Australia don’t make us do it, that’s just how it is. We just simply didn’t prepare for it with our biggest trading partner and the traditional shipping routes we use when trading with them which is why we kept delaying it, it’s as simple as that. It’s almost as if it wasn’t our idea.

 

[skybluetony176]

It’s being reported that Boris Johnson, the PM who insisted that we had to introduce voter ID to stop voter fraud (that doesn’t exist on numbers big enough that you can’t count them on one hand) and is definitely not a tool to hamper voter turnout amongst a demographic that would probably vote for someone else, was turned away from his polling station as he had no ID on him.

 

[Skybluekyle]

It’s being reported that Boris Johnson, the PM who insisted that we had to introduce voter ID to stop voter fraud (that doesn’t exist on numbers big enough that you can’t count them on one hand) and is definitely not a tool to hamper voter turnout amongst a demographic that would probably vote for someone else, was turned away from his polling station as he had no ID on him.

It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change

 

[Ian1779]

It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change

It’s a deliberate tactic to discourage certain groups of society from voting.

 

[hamertime]

It's a bizarre law. The Electoral Commission has stated there was around 1,500 suspected cases of electoral fraud in the last four/five years, and only a small proportion leading to convictions. When taken into context the amount of votes, and the importance of voting, even if all 1,500 was genuine fraud, it is still a very small proportion of votes cast, and in no way should be in-scope for a law change

Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.

 

[shmmeee]

Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.

Have you ever been right about anything?

 

[hamertime]

Have you ever been right about anything?

I’m always right.

The tories will win the general election also.

 

[shmmeee]

I’m always right.
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The being wrong in the last post was some kind of performance art?

 

[David O'Day]

I’m always right.

The tories will win the general election also.

Next level trolling

 

[Ian1779]

Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.

Of those suspected, less than 5 convictions in the last dozen years.

It’s a punitive law that only clowns would consider a necessity.

 

[hamertime]

The being wrong in the last post was some kind of performance art?

Sometimes I have to throw something stupid in there otherwise people will get disheartened feeling inferior to me. Not in this case though.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well it worked yesterday, left my passport in the office and couldn’t be arsed to go back so no voting for me.

 

[PVA]

Looking forward to the usual mental gymnastics involved to call the local elections as a disappointing night for Labour

 

[hamertime]

It gives credibility to the voting process knowing only people registered to vote are actually voting for themselves.

It stops oppressed or vulnerable people having their vote taken away from them by other people in their families. They are the only one who can use their vote in privacy.

I’ll say it again the Tories will win the next general election.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It gives credibility to the voting process knowing only people registered to vote are actually voting for themselves.

It stops oppressed or vulnerable people having their vote taken away from them by other people in their families. They are the only one who can use their vote in privacy.

I’ll say it again the Tories will win the next general election.

And if the Tories lose despite this American-inspired voter suppression, you’ll say Labour cheated in some way I’m guessing.

The problem for you is that Jacob Rees-Mogg let the cat out of the bag on why they did this.

Jacob Rees-Mogg suggests requiring photo ID to vote was attempt to 'gerrymander' which 'came back to bite' Tories

The government has consistently denied that the reforms were an attempt to help Conservative support in elections, but Mr Rees-Mogg's remarks suggest this is not necessarily the case.

news.sky.com

 

[hamertime]

I actually despise the tories but I will still vote for them. The alternative is actually frightening.

This is the only reason they will win.

 

[David O'Day]

And if the Tories lose despite this American-inspired voter suppression, you’ll say Labour cheated in some way I’m guessing.

The problem for you is that Jacob Rees-Mogg let the cat out of the bag on why they did this.

Jacob Rees-Mogg suggests requiring photo ID to vote was attempt to 'gerrymander' which 'came back to bite' Tories

The government has consistently denied that the reforms were an attempt to help Conservative support in elections, but Mr Rees-Mogg's remarks suggest this is not necessarily the case.

news.sky.com

Stop arguing with a troll, he's her for a WUM.

Nothing he says is ever true

 

[David O'Day]

Police investigate Laurence Fox ‘upskirting’ tweet

Post featured compromising image of the broadcaster Narinder Kaur, who said she was left ‘incredibly upset’

www.theguardian.com

Lozza Fox, the one person who gets owned more than Hamertime

 

[hamertime]

Police investigate Laurence Fox ‘upskirting’ tweet

Post featured compromising image of the broadcaster Narinder Kaur, who said she was left ‘incredibly upset’

www.theguardian.com

Lozza Fox, the one person who gets owned more than Hamertime

You’re completely deluded. You’re in my pocket and you don’t even know it.

 

[shmmeee]

Sometimes I have to throw something stupid in there otherwise people will get disheartened feeling inferior to me. Not in this case though.

You claimed that a number of alleged voter fraud incidents that happened when there was no voter ID would be higher if there were no voter ID.

 

[David O'Day]

Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.

How would an illegal immigrant appear on the electoral rolls?

You do know how voting and who can vote works in the UK?

 

[David O'Day]

Exactly, that’s why the rule is working. If you didn’t need any ID, then the fraud would be massively more Than 1500 cases.

It also stops the hordes of illegal immigrants in this country voting.

You didn't need ID for those cases skippy.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Stop arguing with a troll, he's her for a WUM.

Nothing he says is ever true

Never hurts to have a reminder of Rees-Mogg being proof that accent does not equal intelligence

 

[David O'Day]

You’re completely deluded. You’re in my pocket and you don’t even know it.

You're either a WUM or so stupid your mum has to remind you to keep breathing.

 

[David O'Day]

Looking forward to the usual mental gymnastics involved to call the local elections as a disappointing night for Labour

Seems to be "There's no love for Kier Starmer though" which is weird as that would mean that the public hates the tories so much that they will vote in massive numbers for a party lead by someone they don't like. That is an even worse placed for the tories to be.

 

[skybluetony176]

Police investigate Laurence Fox ‘upskirting’ tweet

Post featured compromising image of the broadcaster Narinder Kaur, who said she was left ‘incredibly upset’

www.theguardian.com

Lozza Fox, the one person who gets owned more than Hamertime

He’s a piece of shit isn’t he.

 

[David O'Day]

He’s a piece of shit isn’t he.

And really stupid, it's a fatal mixture.

 

[hamertime]

And really stupid, it's a fatal mixture.

But a lot more successful than you and has a spine unlike you, who’s stupid

 

[hamertime]

You're either a WUM or so stupid your mum has to remind you to keep breathing.

Keep telling yourself everybody else is stupid but really you know deep down you are and have no friends. This forum your life

 

[skybluetony176]

Sunak’s green plan has just been found to be unlawful in the British courts. Green groups argued that it was just word salad and was signed off by the government with no evidence that the government had a plan to achieve it. He’s not having a good day.

 

[hamertime]

Sunak’s green plan has just been found to be unlawful in the British courts. Green groups argued that it was just word salad and was signed off by the government with no evidence that the government had a plan to achieve it. He’s not having a good day.

Fair play to him for trying to fob the greens off, the most pointless party in the history of the UK

 

[PVA]

Seems to be "There's no love for Kier Starmer though" which is weird as that would mean that the public hates the tories so much that they will vote in massive numbers for a party lead by someone they don't like. That is an even worse placed for the tories to be.

Yep 'The electorate don't like Starmer, they just really, really fucking hate us' is quite the line to go with

 

[chiefdave]

Labour are briefing they believe they are on course for defeat in the West Midlands mayoral race, with support for independent candidate Akhmed Yakoob, who stood on a pro-Gaza ticket, a major factor.

A senior party source said: "It’s the Middle East, not West Midlands, that will have won [Conservative candidate] Andy Street the mayoralty. Once again Hamas are the real villains."

Taken from the BBC news feed but that can't be a genuine quote. Labour blaming Hamas for them losing the West Midlands mayoral election!

 

[Grendel]

Yep 'The electorate don't like Starmer, they just really, really fucking hate us' is quite the line to go with

Haven’t you said the main reason you like Starmer is he’s not a Tory (which in reality he is)?