Philosoraptor
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Unite union refuses to endorse Labour's election manifesto
Labour's biggest trade union backer is concerned workers' rights policies do not go far enough.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Brighton Sky Blue
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What a business genius
Terry Gibson's perm
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The press have really turned on the tories it’s great to see, I loved the one where the guy from Sky was giving it to Holden and his little muppet jumped in and got put in his place as well.
Liquid Gold
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It's not great to see. The press shouldn't decide who they want in government, they should be there to report objectively and allow the public to inform themselves of the options.
I think what he means is that the press have finally started holding the Tories to account and have started pushing back on their shite and lies rather than just accepting it. As they should. Even if it's 14 years too late!
Liquid Gold
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I think them holding that much power is dangerous. It's not that it's better late than never it's scary how they will decide what's best for them and go for it. If Starmer was any danger to the status quo he would be getting all the flak with Super Sunak walking it.
It's dodgy as fuck and one of the industries that needs major reform and regulation.
Terry Gibson's perm
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It’s great to see they have stopped accepting the bollocks now is more what I was trying to say they are being held accountable and they really don’t like it.
Terry Gibson's perm
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The problem with more regulation is it will be set by government and they have seen to be more than incapable.
Ian1779
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He’s such a twat.
shmmeee
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Do they hold that much power in 2024?
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They never did. The Sun said vote Tory, the majority of their readership voted Labour when nobody else was. Of more concern is the access to dubious 'information' across the internet to confirm deep held feelings and impressions even if rooted in gibbering bollocks.
shmmeee
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Yeah. Social media has fucked elections. I do wonder how it would have impacted historic elections.
Skybluekyle
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I am a soft Eurosceptic, and voted, just about, "Leave" in the EU Referendum, but I can say with a large degree of certainty, Russian interference through social media had a sizable impact on the vote. Social media is easily the biggest influencer on the electorate.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Compare PMQs before and after for starters. What was once a genuine opportunity to directly question the PM has turned into endless attempts to ‘go viral’.
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They had their own forms I guess!
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Philosoraptor
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It's amazing no one else has thought about funding local services, i.e. Libraries etc, by actually taxing richer people more.
The Green Party has pledged to raise taxes on UK's top earners in its manifesto, claiming the plans will generate £70bn a year to mend "broken Britain".
The plans include raising the National Insurance (NI) rate to 8% on annual wages above £50,270 - equivalent to an extra £283.74 per year in tax for someone earning £55,000.
To pay for their plans the party has proposed a new wealth tax charged at 1% on all assets worth more than £10m declared in a self-assessment tax return, increasing to 2% on all assets above £1bn.
They would also reform the NI system.
Currently Employees pay no NI on earnings of up to £12,570, 8% on earnings of between £12,570 and £50,270, and 2% on earnings of above £50,270 for the 2023/24 tax year.
Under the Greens' plans, the 8% rate would be paid on all wages above the upper earnings threshold.
The Greens said they would also:
General election 2024: Greens vow £70bn tax hike on wealthiest
The Green Party says it will set out plans for a “game-changing” transformation in the UK.
www.bbc.co.uk
The Green Party has pledged to raise taxes on UK's top earners in its manifesto, claiming the plans will generate £70bn a year to mend "broken Britain".
The plans include raising the National Insurance (NI) rate to 8% on annual wages above £50,270 - equivalent to an extra £283.74 per year in tax for someone earning £55,000.
To pay for their plans the party has proposed a new wealth tax charged at 1% on all assets worth more than £10m declared in a self-assessment tax return, increasing to 2% on all assets above £1bn.
They would also reform the NI system.
Currently Employees pay no NI on earnings of up to £12,570, 8% on earnings of between £12,570 and £50,270, and 2% on earnings of above £50,270 for the 2023/24 tax year.
Under the Greens' plans, the 8% rate would be paid on all wages above the upper earnings threshold.
The Greens said they would also:
- Introduce a carbon tax on businesses starting at £120 per tonne emitted, rising to £500 per tonne over ten years, to push businesses to decarbonise
- Expand the 75% windfall tax on fossil fuel profits to banks, aiming to raise an extra £9bn a year
- Bring Capital Gains Tax in line with income tax bands.
Philosoraptor
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Interest stuff coming out from France. People saying they are having their Liz Truss moment.
Hole in the economy etc
Reason why GE was called over there?
Press conference 11.00am (10.00am UK)
Hole in the economy etc
Reason why GE was called over there?
Press conference 11.00am (10.00am UK)
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skybluetony176
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The Greens have bought a few things into the mixIt's amazing no one else has thought about funding local services, i.e. Libraries etc, by actually taxing richer people more.
General election 2024: Greens vow £70bn tax hike on wealthiest
The Green Party says it will set out plans for a “game-changing” transformation in the UK.www.bbc.co.uk
The Green Party has pledged to raise taxes on UK's top earners in its manifesto, claiming the plans will generate £70bn a year to mend "broken Britain".
The plans include raising the National Insurance (NI) rate to 8% on annual wages above £50,270 - equivalent to an extra £283.74 per year in tax for someone earning £55,000.
To pay for their plans the party has proposed a new wealth tax charged at 1% on all assets worth more than £10m declared in a self-assessment tax return, increasing to 2% on all assets above £1bn.
They would also reform the NI system.
Currently Employees pay no NI on earnings of up to £12,570, 8% on earnings of between £12,570 and £50,270, and 2% on earnings of above £50,270 for the 2023/24 tax year.
Under the Greens' plans, the 8% rate would be paid on all wages above the upper earnings threshold.
The Greens said they would also:
- Introduce a carbon tax on businesses starting at £120 per tonne emitted, rising to £500 per tonne over ten years, to push businesses to decarbonise
- Expand the 75% windfall tax on fossil fuel profits to banks, aiming to raise an extra £9bn a year
- Bring Capital Gains Tax in line with income tax bands.
Firstly they’ve demonstrated perfectly how loaded the tax system is against working class people.
Secondly in England at least they the only mainstream party that’s radical.
Thirdly they’re the only socialist party you can vote for in England who have a chance of getting in.
My heart and head says vote Green, I’ve just got this niggle in the back of my head that voting Labour in Rugby is the only chance of stopping the Tories winning. I have come to the conclusion though that if Labour can’t win Rugby against the current backdrop they never will again so whoever you vote for is a wasted vote unless you vote Tory so you may as well vote with your heart.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Looking at the last few GEs the Greens have no chance of winning W+L, but even taking aside what Starmer’s Labour has become, our sitting Labour MP has done (or not done) enough locally to deserve being unseated.
The question is if I dislike those two enough to allow having a Tory instead.
Nuskyblue
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It's amazing no one else has thought about funding local services, i.e. Libraries etc, by actually taxing richer people more.
General election 2024: Greens vow £70bn tax hike on wealthiest
The Green Party says it will set out plans for a “game-changing” transformation in the UK.www.bbc.co.uk
The Green Party has pledged to raise taxes on UK's top earners in its manifesto, claiming the plans will generate £70bn a year to mend "broken Britain".
The plans include raising the National Insurance (NI) rate to 8% on annual wages above £50,270 - equivalent to an extra £283.74 per year in tax for someone earning £55,000.
To pay for their plans the party has proposed a new wealth tax charged at 1% on all assets worth more than £10m declared in a self-assessment tax return, increasing to 2% on all assets above £1bn.
They would also reform the NI system.
Currently Employees pay no NI on earnings of up to £12,570, 8% on earnings of between £12,570 and £50,270, and 2% on earnings of above £50,270 for the 2023/24 tax year.
Under the Greens' plans, the 8% rate would be paid on all wages above the upper earnings threshold.
The Greens said they would also:
- Introduce a carbon tax on businesses starting at £120 per tonne emitted, rising to £500 per tonne over ten years, to push businesses to decarbonise
- Expand the 75% windfall tax on fossil fuel profits to banks, aiming to raise an extra £9bn a year
- Bring Capital Gains Tax in line with income tax bands.
I think taxing the likes of Amazon a fair whack would also go some, the rate that they pay is a joke.
shmmeee
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FYI Rugby is predicted to be a Lab gain
shmmeee
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The whole circle jerk with the big four needs looking at. It seems whatever you do the big company lawyers manage to wriggle out of it and smaller companies get hit. Like the rest of the legal system I guess.
fernandopartridge
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Where does the incoming government believe the growth is going to magically appear from? Is there any immediate stimulus or is it just more wishful thinking?
www.theguardian.com
UK GDP stagnated in wet April; Wall Street hits record high as US inflation falls – as it happened
UK GDP failed to grow in April, as wet weather hit retailers and construction firms
fernandopartridge
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One of my probably completely unworkable ideas would be to charge vehicle excise duty based on mileage, as recorded each year at MOT and / or at change of ownership with different rates for different types of engine.
shmmeee
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Well that’s what I was thinking actually in a way. Scrap VED and instead put the tax on petrol (essentially what we’re already doing) so people pay per mile. But then that’s all fucked with electric cars. Weirdly the right thing is probably to do what the greens want with a carbon tax, reduce petrol duty and increase VED to account for weight and other damage to roads maybe.
Surprised me that current petrol tax is above the recommended carbon tax tho
How do the Chinese do it, just asking?
skybluetony176
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Add it to the cost of fuel at the pump. I’m sure some boffin could work out a formula to do just what you propose. Then whoever buys the more fuel, stands to reason that they’re either using the roads most or have a gas guzzling/polluting vehicle.
skybluetony176
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Through dictatorship
shmmeee
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What do you do about super heavy electric cars damaging the roads though? It’s not all anti pollution it has to fix potholes and stuff to.
Or catching fire, question for emergency services clean up
shmmeee
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This is a bit of a myth. Petrol cars catch fire at a higher rate. Though if we bring all these new cheap Chinese EVs in maybe that’ll change.