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Brighton Sky Blue

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The man campaigning to break up the country and build a big fence at Gretna is unhappy about politics becoming polarised.

Look in the mirror
 
SIR ERNIE

SIR ERNIE

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5 mins watching and Starmer's all over the place in this leaders debate. Embarrassing.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Sunak going full Boris and telling us how angry he is at the behaviour of his MP’s and staff. Just waiting for the headline to break that Sunak had a bet on it too.
 
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duffer

duffer

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MalcSB said:
We have had Labour governments before, and politicians attendance at private schools is not limited to the Tories,didn’t Tony Blair attend Fettes?
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No argument from me.

One of the major issues in this country, imho, is a severe lack of social mobility and the disproportionately high proportion of privately educated Oxbridge graduates in positions of power and influence. This applies to both parties, though I suspect is more evident in the Tories.

If you're looking for a reason why private schools have charitable status and unique tax breaks, maybe that has something to do with it.
 
Como

Como

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duffer said:
No argument from me.

One of the major issues in this country, imho, is a severe lack of social mobility and the disproportionately high proportion of privately educated Oxbridge graduates in positions of power and influence. This applies to both parties, though I suspect is more evident in the Tories.

If you're looking for a reason why private schools have charitable status and unique tax breaks, maybe that has something to do with it.
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Technically Public Schools.

I am not aware of any European Country that taxes education so this would be a Brexit first!
 
MalcSB

MalcSB

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duffer said:
No argument from me.

One of the major issues in this country, imho, is a severe lack of social mobility and the disproportionately high proportion of privately educated Oxbridge graduates in positions of power and influence. This applies to both parties, though I suspect is more evident in the Tories.

If you're looking for a reason why private schools have charitable status and unique tax breaks, maybe that has something to do with it.
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Or it could just be that education was seen as a good thing. Perhaps VAT should be added to books.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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David O'Day said:
Mate, People Polling are comedy gold.

It's a weird right wing fella who runs it and their last poll had the SNP{ getting no votes at all and PC getting votes in England.

File under pish
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On some of these polls you can put your own methodology in to manipulate the numbers. Lee Anderson has just been caught out doing it claiming he’ll win by a landslide so there’s no point voting anymore else, if you read the small print it it says something along the methodology is user defined.
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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I know you’re all waiting

Here you go


Pray Your Part
Isaiah 65.20

'No more shall there be in it an infant that lives but a few days or an old person who does not live out a lifetime … ’
The prophet Isaiah sets out a vision of a safe and stable society. Here, people can put down roots and build good lives. They know that in this place, they and their families can flourish and enjoy life to the full.

But even in the most caring and well-established society, anyone can become vulnerable at any time, through accident or ill health. How we care for the sick is a measure of the level of compassion we have built into the structures of our society.

We in the UK are deeply fortunate to have inherited the National Health Service from our forebears.

As we pray for its staff and work today and for its future flourishing, let us remember that the work of the NHS reflects our love for one another.
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Give all who work in healthcare
your compassion, skill and wisdom.
Be their strength and their shield
as they give of themselves in the care of others.
Hear us, good Lord.
 
fatso

fatso

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Be hilarious to see the Torys coming third.

In all honesty we all know there's only 1 pole that counts.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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fatso said:
Be hilarious to see the Torys coming third.

In all honesty we all know there's only 1 pole that counts.
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I can’t decide what would be funnier. Sunak winning his seat or Sunak losing his seat. He clearly wants out, it’s the only possible explanation. If he wins his seat by election within 12 months would be a good bet.
 
fatso

fatso

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skybluetony176 said:
I can’t decide what would be funnier. Sunak winning his seat or Sunak losing his seat. He clearly wants out, it’s the only possible explanation. If he wins his seat by election within 12 months would be a good bet.
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Sunak losing his seat would be an ignominious end to his political career.
But let's be honest here. He was never voted in by the electorate as PM and neither was Truss, so they never really had a mandate from the people.

And yes I'm fully aware that we vote for a party rather than an Individual, but when Boris and his cohorts were ousted there should of been a general election called straight away, as his whole manifesto disappeared with him.

No one voted for Trussenomics!
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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fatso said:
Sunak losing his seat would be an ignominious end to his political career.
But let's be honest here. He was never voted in by the electorate as PM and neither was Truss, so they never really had a mandate from the people.

And yes I'm fully aware that we vote for a party rather than an Individual, but when Boris and his cohorts were ousted there should of been a general election called straight away, as his whole manifesto disappeared with him.

No one voted for Trussenomics!
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Even if you consider that she was voted in by her party more people in the UK voted for the postmen to go on strike than voted for Truss to be PM. Not sure how true it is but I do recall reading that you don’t have to be either a UK citizen and/or live in the UK to be a Tory party member. She could have been voted in by Russia for all we know.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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There is zero requirement for a PM to be elected by the electorate- why this is an obsession for some I have no idea
 
fatso

fatso

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skybluetony176 said:
Even if you consider that she was voted in by her party more people in the UK voted for the postmen to go on strike than voted for Truss to be PM. Not sure how true it is but I do recall reading that you don’t have to be either a UK citizen and/or live in the UK to be a Tory party member. She could have been voted in by Russia for all we know.
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I remember when Sunak got the top job, all the press were shouting about him being the first British Asian to become PM, but I kept saying he's an illegitimate PM, he was not, and never has been voted in and endorsed by the electorate, and neither was Truss before him, and yet we claim to be a democracy.

Imo it's simple, if a governing party vote out their leader who was elected by the people, it should immediately trigger a general election.

And the same applies to MP's who cross the floor, it should imediately trigger a by-election in their constituency.
 
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