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shmmeee

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Cluttered might be a bit of an overstatement, but the point of those machines using pavements remains. At my age, it’s hard to get out of the way when youths are doing wheelies in my direction, as happened recently walking from my parked mild hybrid to the CBS Arena.

Mind you:-



I completely support proper mobility infrastructure and I’m glad to see you coming around to it too.
 

wingy

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Cluttered might be a bit of an overstatement, but the point of those machines using pavements remains. At my age, it’s hard to get out of the way when youths are doing wheelies in my direction, as happened recently walking from my parked mild hybrid to the CBS Arena.

Mind you:-


It's getting to be word wild tbf all major cities are going this way, makes you wonder why they have these loopholes or rental schemes in the first place, but you no what,if it's so hard to get around, they'll be behind the curve again?🤔
 

MalcSB

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A bus van or lorry is providing far more utility than taking one man to the shops. Road space is limited. We aren’t built for everyone to drive a tank around.
What about a mum taking her three precious offspring to school? Or taking a neurosurgeon to work?

Why do people commute so far? Is it because governments have increased the costs of moving home to live nearer work?
why do people take their kids to school in a car, I walked or cycled (road not pavement)?
 

wingy

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What about a mum taking her three precious offspring to school? Or taking a neurosurgeon to work?

Why do people commute so far? Is it because governments have increased the costs of moving home to live nearer work?
why do people take their kids to school in a car, I walked or cycled (road not pavement)?
4 miles in the the morning was a the way to go go in the sixties in the middle of winter,and of course you'd probably walk it first?
 

shmmeee

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What about a mum taking her three precious offspring to school? Or taking a neurosurgeon to work?

Why do people commute so far? Is it because governments have increased the costs of moving home to live nearer work?
why do people take their kids to school in a car, I walked or cycled (road not pavement)?

Mum should walk the kids it’s better for everyone, and as soon as possible the kids should take themselves by bike or safe public transport. Housing and transport should be cheap enough and reliable enough and WFH common enough for people to access good quality work wherever they choose or have to live. These have always been my base positions.

We’ve increasingly built a society around the car, as a sort of America lite. Birmingham is the least walkable city on the planet outside the US or something ridiculous. Part of reversing that is better transport infrastructure, but some of it is going to be making it more costly to make those needless journeys.
 

MalcSB

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A bus van or lorry is providing far more utility than taking one man to the shops. Road space is limited. We aren’t built for everyone to drive a tank around.
Road space isn't helped by creating cycle lanes and then not insisting that cyclists use them. Madness.
 
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wingy

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Mum should walk the kids it’s better for everyone, and as soon as possible the kids should take themselves by bike or safe public transport. Housing and transport should be cheap enough and reliable enough and WFH common enough for people to access good quality work wherever they choose or have to live. These have always been my base positions.

We’ve increasingly built a society around the car, as a sort of America lite. Birmingham is the least walkable city on the planet outside the US or something ridiculous. Part of reversing that is better transport infrastructure, but some of it is going to be making it more costly to make those needless journeys.
3000 seperate cars make the journey up Sewell highway every match ,why is there negligible lol provision, private enterprise must have something to do with it,No?
 

wingy

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Mum should walk the kids it’s better for everyone, and as soon as possible the kids should take themselves by bike or safe public transport. Housing and transport should be cheap enough and reliable enough and WFH common enough for people to access good quality work wherever they choose or have to live. These have always been my base positions.

We’ve increasingly built a society around the car, as a sort of America lite. Birmingham is the least walkable city on the planet outside the US or something ridiculous. Part of reversing that is better transport infrastructure, but some of it is going to be making it more costly to make those needless journeys.
Sexism, can't do that! Parent or responsible adult!
 

MalcSB

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Mum should walk the kids it’s better for everyone, and as soon as possible the kids should take themselves by bike or safe public transport. Housing and transport should be cheap enough and reliable enough and WFH common enough for people to access good quality work wherever they choose or have to live. These have always been my base positions.

We’ve increasingly built a society around the car, as a sort of America lite. Birmingham is the least walkable city on the planet outside the US or something ridiculous. Part of reversing that is better transport infrastructure, but some of it is going to be making it more costly to make those needless journeys.
I know you are very committed to this topic but
Schools have been closed and amalgamated in the name of “efficiency” and aren’t so close to home.
Stamp duty is a huge disincentive to moving, especially compared to the little more than the admin cost it was when I was young
WFH will never be available to great swathes of the population. AI will probably replace many jobs that can be wfh.
 

Nuskyblue

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Bigger is not always best,if you're confronted with a BMW X5 , it's quite a challenge to get out of a parking space or passing on a street with parked cars down both sides, risking damage to said vehicles, making room!
The X5 was the vehicle that sprung to mind, or the Q7. They are vast!
 

shmmeee

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I know you are very committed to this topic but
Schools have been closed and amalgamated in the name of “efficiency” and aren’t so close to home.
Stamp duty is a huge disincentive to moving, especially compared to the little more than the admin cost it was when I was young
WFH will never be available to great swathes of the population. AI will probably replace many jobs that can be wfh.

I don’t agree with that either (super schools). Ideally we’d have local high quality primaries/middle schools and a safe and cheap transport system that can give older kids choice in most places.

Stamp duty should go, it should be easy to move essentially where you want when you want for work. Obviously it’ll cost more in places with more people, but a two bed flat in somewhere that isn’t a shithole should be within reach for the working man anywhere.

I care about WFH because I don’t think kids should have to move out of their community or parents uproot kids who are settled if they don’t have to and I want parents to be able to do things like walk their kids to and from school.

We’ve done so much to destroy basic community and these kind of things (everyone driving and people having to move out for work) don’t help. Just because WFH isn’t available to everyone isn’t a reason to try and stop it. Night shifts, four day weeks, and all other sorts of working patterns aren’t available either. We don’t crack down on them.

Also I wouldn’t be so sure it stays like that. We are not a million miles away from having humanoid robots that can physically do everything but aren’t smart enough to do it themselves. At which point we could offer WFH or at least work from close by remote operating centre. Latency issues mean we probably couldn’t operate them from the global south just yet and make everyone unemployed but I’m sure they’ll figure a way around that. All of this talk may feel a little high minded when we’re all stuck in our robot VR suits all day trying to earn a wage against a fleet of Phillipinos.
 

MalcSB

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The X5 was the vehicle that sprung to mind, or the Q7. They are vast!
I hate those American style pick up trucks, they are huge and always seem to be driven really aggressively.
While we are at it, can we ban caravans and motorhomes too, they take up a lot of space on the road.
 

wingy

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I hate those American style pick up trucks, they are huge and always seem to be driven really aggressively.
While we are at it, can we ban caravans and motorhomes too, they take up a lot of space on the road.
Chances are you won't meet one on a suburban rd?
 

Nick

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Schools won't improve because they aren't building any more.

There's still the same ones by me from when I was a kid and there's multiple new housing estates.

Look at keresley, still the same schools and hundreds of houses going up.

No new GP surgeries either. Just loads more houses, loads more people.
 

MalcSB

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Chances are you won't meet one on a suburban rd?
American style pick up trucks you regularly will, and they take up one and a half spaces in a car park.

Caravans and motor homes you will from time to time and when they do they will create as much r8wk as, say, an X5. I was assuming we want to eradicate the risk of coming across sometime)Ng big down a narrow road with cars oark3d on either side.

All slightly tongue in cheek, but where do these things start and stop.
 

Como

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Perhaps it is more a function of why buys a truck in the US.

Fords for example has the Maverick which is hard to get and is basically a truck look on a car chassis.

Ranger is their first proper truck.

F150 is the normal one, comes in many variants, and is used in a variety of circumstances, sometimes an a Transit type, people who need to pull stuff or people who just like a truck. Really handy knowing you can throw pretty much anything in the back.

And there is the F250 and up, but they tend to be use related.

I used to drive a Ranger and then a F150 and I really liked the F150, there is a EV version, tempted secondhand as prices have collapsed. Trouble is Insurance has not.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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This is hilarious.


Andrew Tate? There is a much more obvious situation to be addressed.
If you knew the status Tate enjoys among teenage boys at the moment then I doubt you’d be saying that. Will be a great day when social media falls on its arse.
 

fernandopartridge

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This sounds a bit like the Big Society


They have got no ideas because they're wedded to austerity. They're looking to go back to Victorian times it seems:

Nandy said the government had begun nudging potential philanthropists to invest in the areas they came from – something she has seen happen in Wigan, where the owner of the football and rugby league clubs, Mike Danson, has invested in the community. “We’re actively pursuing a strategy that will build that network and then connect it to those communities,” she said.

Sorry Lisa, unlike Lever or Cadbury, companies in the UK are now owned by BlackRock.

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MalcSB

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This sounds a bit like the Big Society


They have got no ideas because they're wedded to austerity. They're looking to go back to Victorian times it seems:



Sorry Lisa, unlike Lever or Cadbury, companies in the UK are now owned by BlackRock.

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AGE UK have already told them they have got it wrong in relation to winter fuel payment.
 

shmmeee

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This sounds a bit like the Big Society


They have got no ideas because they're wedded to austerity. They're looking to go back to Victorian times it seems:



Sorry Lisa, unlike Lever or Cadbury, companies in the UK are now owned by BlackRock.

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Decent British owned companies do exist. I work for one of them.

Agree though philanthropy is the last resort of a government to weak to tax the rich properly.
 

Mcbean

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Have been following the HS2 fb site - they have a number of their own enforcers - make one negative comment and they are on you trolling how stupid your opinion is - they have been trained to give answers made up by their or department and demean any comments made by outsiders even if they are entitled to their own opinion - I timed a response in my last comment less than 2 mins to respond
 

MalcSB

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Have been following the HS2 fb site - they have a number of their own enforcers - make one negative comment and they are on you trolling how stupid your opinion is - they have been trained to give answers made up by their or department and demean any comments made by outsiders even if they are entitled to their own opinion - I timed a response in my last comment less than 2 mins to respond
There was an interesting tv Programme about how the costs have been massaged and Misrepresented.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Have been following the HS2 fb site - they have a number of their own enforcers - make one negative comment and they are on you trolling how stupid your opinion is - they have been trained to give answers made up by their or department and demean any comments made by outsiders even if they are entitled to their own opinion - I timed a response in my last comment less than 2 mins to respond

I can well believe it.

Back when HS2 was first a thing (10+ years ago) there were what seemed like paid responders on lots of comment sections of news sites. Make any comment and you got pinged by the same recycled propaganda shooting you down. It was really suspect.
 

Skybluekyle

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Have been following the HS2 fb site - they have a number of their own enforcers - make one negative comment and they are on you trolling how stupid your opinion is - they have been trained to give answers made up by their or department and demean any comments made by outsiders even if they are entitled to their own opinion - I timed a response in my last comment less than 2 mins to respond
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shmmeee

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Attitude to data sharing in the NHS is one of my real bugbears. Literal deaths for zero benefit other than assuaging peoples baseless Enemy of the State type fears.

To be clear this is sharing within the NHS/government.
 

chiefdave

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Attitude to data sharing in the NHS is one of my real bugbears. Literal deaths for zero benefit other than assuaging peoples baseless Enemy of the State type fears.

To be clear this is sharing within the NHS/government.

Had this happen to me multiple times, test results that never made it from one part of the system to my GP being the most common. The most comical instance was when the doctor wanted me to go immediately to Walsgrave and gave me a handwritten letter to take because he had no other way of getting the information to them.

Most recently I had 3 trips to A&E. It became pretty clear that there was no record of my first visit anywhere on the system when I had to go back the second time. To this day my GP has no information about any of the 3 visits other than what I have passed on.
 

Como

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I was going to comment on the latest VAT on Schools disaster.

How many years has this been talked about but seems none spent the time to think it through.

Anyway NHS yep no clue, people move, some a lot, and now it seems injecting the Unemployed is optional so what was the fuss about and why raise it and why should it just be available to the Unemployed?
 

fernandopartridge

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My reading of the FDP is that it's limited to secondary care though so misses a significant chunk of the story and the core underpinning GP record:


In fairness, I think the FDP is not really anything new and is just part of what was the NPfIT which failed under the last Labour government. It's not just Palantir involved and some of the other parties are definitely sound entities not run by fascist weirdos. On the balance of everything it has more benefits than risks.
 

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