Doug King - Spineless (2 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

Most independent outlets had us finishing between 6th and 3rd tbf.

Yeah I’d have said we were playoff contenders, not for the title though.

 

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[quinn1971]

This season will be all about consolidation. Expecting the new head coach to get us promoted this season is unrealistic

it’s not that unrealistic, win last night and we’re 3 points off the play offs, new manager comes in players miraculously start putting a bit more effort in, gutted for robins but maybe it’s what we needed, it’s a massive call from Doug but what if it’s the right one,

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

This season will be all about consolidation. Expecting the new head coach to get us promoted this season is unrealistic.

Steve Cooper did it at Forest

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

Well if the players start putting more effort in,it says a lot about their commitment.

 

[Sick Boy]

Steve Copper did it at Forest

The problem for me is that unless he comes in and goes on a winning streak it’s another Peter Reid situation that quickly gets ugly.

 

[Sick Boy]

Well if the players start putting more effort in,it says a lot about their commitment.

It’d show that he’d lost the dressing room.

 

[pusbccfc]

Doug is ruthless and wants better.

People were hammering him for releasing Prem packages and demanding 3 play offs in 5 years but that's what he, and ultimately we want.

We are currently 17th, playing very poorly with an extremely expensive side. We are out of the relegation zone on goal difference.

It's the same with ticket prices. People hound him for it but he doesn't care if 27,000 are turning up each week funding the club.

 

[Darth Robins]

I'm also curious if it's just MR going, does the new Head Coach just have to keep the exact same coaching set up? They've not exactly covered themselves in glory so far.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Presumably he has done it now to give the new manager an international break to train in.

People are so desperate to see the worst in DK.

Thinking ahead, it gives the chance for a new manager to establish their transfer targets for Jan and summer 2025.

It’s a risky move for Doug and if the appointment is underwhelming, it’ll unravel rapidly.

 

[mmttww]

Sacking our most popular manager in 40 years and announcing a fan forum to face questions about it. Yeah, this thread makes sense.

 

[Darth Robins]

Sacking our most popular manager in 40 years and announcing a fan forum to face questions about it. Yeah, this thread makes sense.

When are tickets on sale for that by the way?

 

[pusbccfc]

Sacking our most popular manager in 40 years and announcing a fan forum to face questions about it. Yeah, this thread makes sense.

Yeah, that is going to be fucking tasty.

I hope they live stream it.

 

[Domo]

BTA said it was the expectation in his first interview after signing.

Surely at the beginning of th season it was pitched to alot of signings that it would be an expectation, alot on here said it was, alot of gifs/images suggesting HMS PTL Etc, sometimes signing just don't workout, or don't workout straight away.

Robins isn't stupid, he'll have known weeks aho the writing was on the wall, the industry is ruthless, and it wouldn't have just been DK's sole decision.

 

[Hobo]

It hasnt gone unnoticed that this decision has been made when there is nearly two weeks until the next home game (also on sky)

A cowards decision to sack Robins now, and aim to control the reaction with his “fans forum” infront of a couple of hundred (at most) rather than face the music at a home game in front of 10’s of thousands.

He’ll hope to have a new appointment in place by then that will change the atmosphere and sentiment in the ground.

I have been firmly in the “Doug has good intentions camp” up until this point. I simply cannot get behind this decision and the manner in which it has been carried out.

Robins has been under pressure with poor results and certain sections of the fan base. King has made a bold decision.

What this means is the pressure and spotlight is now on King not future managers.

 

[Sick Boy]

Sacking our most popular manager in 40 years and announcing a fan forum to face questions about it. Yeah, this thread makes sense.

Agreed. I didn’t think he’d sack him until the end of the season because of the fans. It’s hardly a spineless move ffs, it’s the complete opposite.

 

[Bigelvesy]

For clarity. I believe the timing of the decision is spineless

The argument doing it before the international break so the new person has time with the players doesnt stand against the statement that they havent even started a recruitment process.
Even so, we were 2 fucking days away from our next game. IF you have to do it, do it after Sunderland. They clearly couldnt risk us winning there and delaying the plan. I now feel that they were just waiting for the next bad result to do it.

I believe doing it away from the cauldron of the next home game where King, the players, the remaining coaches would likely receive a defiant response from the overwhelming majority Robins in crowd is spineless.
Hosting a “fans forum” to a couple hundred die hards doesnt mean shit. Thats lip service at its best.

Im not accepting of the results, or performances so far this season. But i believe Robins deserved the time and opportunity to turn it around. If that means we dont get promoted this year, fucking fine because there is also no assurances we would get promoted with anyone else, but the man who has done so much for this club, should have been given the time and then if it didnt turn around a proper goodbye with the fans and “a mutual decision this will be his last”

 

[Grendel]

It hasnt gone unnoticed that this decision has been made when there is nearly two weeks until the next home game (also on sky)

A cowards decision to sack Robins now, and aim to control the reaction with his “fans forum” infront of a couple of hundred (at most) rather than face the music at a home game in front of 10’s of thousands.

He’ll hope to have a new appointment in place by then that will change the atmosphere and sentiment in the ground.

I have been firmly in the “Doug has good intentions camp” up until this point. I simply cannot get behind this decision and the manner in which it has been carried out.

Oh I’m bored with this - just fuck off and stop being so dramatic. This is football not a debate on preservation of the planet.

 

[Bigelvesy]

Oh I’m bored with this - just fuck off and stop being so dramatic. This is football not a debate on preservation of the planet.

Grendel.





Fuck off you absolute wank puffin

 

[Sick Boy]

For clarity. I believe the timing of the decision is spineless

The argument doing it before the international break so the new person has time with the players doesnt stand against the statement that they havent even started a recruitment process.
Even so, we were 2 fucking days away from our next game. IF you have to do it, do it after Sunderland. They clearly couldnt risk us winning there and delaying the plan. I now feel that they were just waiting for the next bad result to do it.

I believe doing it away from the cauldron of the next home game where King, the players, the remaining coaches would likely receive a defiant response from the overwhelming majority Robins in crowd is spineless.
Hosting a “fans forum” to a couple hundred die hards doesnt mean shit. Thats lip service at its best.

Im not accepting of the results, or performances so far this season. But i believe Robins deserved the time and opportunity to turn it around. If that means we dont get promoted this year, fucking fine because there is also no assurances we would get promoted with anyone else, but the man who has done so much for this club, should have been given the time and then if it didnt turn around a proper goodbye with the fans and “a mutual decision this will be his last”

As always with football, what gets said to the media and what actually goes on are very different things.

 

[Grendel]

Grendel.





Fuck off you absolute wank puffin

What is a wank puffin?

 

[edgy]

 

[colinc]

Rob Gurney's thoughts on this in this BBC article BBC suggest to me that King has been planning this for a couple of weeks, I wonder if it got out and led to last night's poor performance? Robins is a legend in my eyes for what he has achieved and will be remembered as such long after King has gone, which hopefully won't be too long.

 

[GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee]

This season will be all about consolidation. Expecting the new head coach to get us promoted this season is unrealistic.

Why sack him now then? Our chances of getting relegated improved by sacking him. If that’s the case, why not wait until the summer?

 

[David O'Day]

Grendel.





Fuck off you absolute wank puffin

Wank Puffin, quality

 

[Nick]

I'm also curious if it's just MR going, does the new Head Coach just have to keep the exact same coaching set up? They've not exactly covered themselves in glory so far.

Has anybody been in the training sessions watching?

 

[Seymour_East]

Wank Puffin, quality

Only with Béarnaise sauce

 

[zuni]

Think grendel is right tbf, fucking hysterics...king has shown some big stones here ...right or wrong we will see but he hasn't been scared to act

 

[Ring Of Steel]

We're 14 games into the season and 7 points off the play-offs with a squad Robins was expected to be a title contender with. Why should the expectations be any lower for the new guy?

This is spot on. It’s bonkers to bang on about expectations and how we were sold this and sold that, and demand getting rid of Robins off the back of it, King clearly wasn’t satisfied with results, but then say that there is no such expectation on the new manager apart from to just drift along all season.

it’s early enough in the season, the gap between us and 6th is not that big, all the stats point to finishing being an issue as opposed to us getting hammered every week & lacking talent- why on earth would the remit *not* be to aim for the playoffs? It makes zero sense.

 

[SkyBlueMatt]

What is a wank puffin?

 

[skybluejelly]

Are there any of the original staff left now , Dennis Lawrence , viveash , robins, Dave boddy , individually maybe not the best but together they were what held us together , like others have said it started to go downhill once Dennis left , if Doug king ends up losing millions he only has himself to blame

 

[wingy]

Are there any of the original staff left now , Dennis Lawrence , viveash , robins, Dave boddy , individually maybe not the best but together they were what held us together , like others have said it started to go downhill once Dennis left , if Doug king ends up losing millions he only has himself to blame

He won't lose millions, the club might though!

 

[Sick Boy]

This is spot on. It’s bonkers to bang on about expectations and how we were sold this and sold that, and demand getting rid of Robins off the back of it, King clearly wasn’t satisfied with results, but then say that there is no such expectation on the new manager apart from to just drift along all season.

it’s early enough in the season, the gap between us and 6th is not that big, all the stats point to finishing being an issue as opposed to us getting hammered every week & lacking talent- why on earth would the remit *not* be to aim for the playoffs? It makes zero sense.

Can you please point out where I’ve ever ‘demanded’ to get rid of Robins?

My point is that internally there won’t be the same level of pressure on the new head coach this season compared to the the fans’ expectations after the Robins sacking.

My fear is another Peter Reid situation where things turn toxic quickly, which will be detrimental to the club in both the short and long term. Talk of us being title contenders was way wide of the mark and unrealistic.

The new manager should be given time to address the issues within the squad over a couple of transfer windows, not hounded out because the fans are upset.

 

[djr8369]

Is it? This is the same as the “oh the new coaches can’t be expected to show results yet”. Loads of other managers have instant impact. In fact I’d argue almost all the successful ones do. The whole point of deviating from the last seven years of consistency has to be an immediate change in direction otherwise what’s the point?

Now we’re back on the merry go round I hope if, as is statistically likely, we appoint a dud we pull the trigger sooner rather than later. Whoever it is is working with the assigned coaches and players so there’s no more “he needs to build his own squad” buffer either.

How many managers might we have before the season ends?

 

[Bernie Rhodes Nose]

When are tickets on sale for that by the way?

And is it available on Sky?

 

[clint van damme]

The new manager should be given time to address the issues within the squad over a couple of transfer windows, not hounded out because the fans are upupset.

Fuck that. He better hit the ground running.
People keep saying we were sold a dream, well that dream wasn't sold on the proviso Robins would be at the helm if we're going to stick to that mantra.

I'm giving this new c**t about 20 minutes grace.