Ellis simms (29 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

Stop discussing it then

I am, as it’s becoming a kettle over a pub situation

 

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[Evo1883]

Yeah nonsense to you. Not to me and the countless people who’ve liked my posts agreeing.

Fortunately it’s a game of opinions and yours isn’t the final say

Using your logic , BTA was good yesterday when he came on because we won

 

[Ccfcisparks]

No its nonsense, several players have played poorly in various different matches , thats not opinion that's a fact ..

Weird to suggest otherwise

OK Evo

 

[covcity4life]

I wouldn't mind norman getting a shot at the striker role again at some point. Doesn't mean he's the best. Doesn't mean he would need to be there permanently but if no one makes that number 9 slot their own maybe he could nab a couple more goals this season given a chance

 

[TomRad85]

I'm in the middle on this, I do think Simms could be better but its a team game and there's a reason our midfielders are finding so much room in the box. Is he simply doing what's asked of him?
Again, not saying he's been great but he's been playing his part in this incredible run.
Wright has different attributes, if Lampard sees him more as a CF it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

 

[Briles]

I am, as it’s becoming a kettle over a pub situation

You and Evo by the end of the day...

 

[Evo1883]

OK Evo

All you're doing here is opening yourself up for the next time you say a player has played poorly if we win a match .

Well done

 

[Evo1883]

You and Evo by the end of the day...

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We've been here before , hes all fart no poo

 

[Ccfcisparks]

All you're doing here is opening yourself up for the next time you say a player has played poorly if we win a match .

Well done

I’ll take the risk, I’m not really that arsed

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Many on this forum dont seem to think haji can play through the middle which is where hes scored most of his career goals , is my point

You’re Wright because he’s only really played LW regularly since joining us. He has scored most of his goals playing as a striker in 2 man partnership with us rather than as a lone striker here.

The way we’re playing atm, Haji will make the most of his attributes picking the ball up and running at defenders down the flanks. How our wingers operate, they operate in a ‘triangle’ and are expected to join the box as a striker (BTA did this a lot), in the middle where a AM would end up (Sakamoto operates inside a lot) and of course as a winger taking in fullbacks in the traditional sense of the word.

Linking this back to Haji, it’s a role that has suited him well in a 4-2-3-1 system.

 

[Evo1883]

I’ll take the risk, I’m not really that arsed

Because you've been doing it anyway you're just a gobshite

 

[SBT]

Using Gyokeres as a benchmark for Simms’ performance levels strikes me as somewhat unfair.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Because you've been doing it anyway you're just a gobshite

Touché!

 

[Briles]

I wouldn't mind norman getting a shot at the striker role again at some point. Doesn't mean he's the best. Doesn't mean he would need to be there permanently but if no one makes that number 9 slot their own maybe he could nab a couple more goals this season given a chance

I don't think he's physical enough yet

 

[TomRad85]

I wouldn't mind norman getting a shot at the striker role again at some point. Doesn't mean he's the best. Doesn't mean he would need to be there permanently but if no one makes that number 9 slot their own maybe he could nab a couple more goals this season given a chance

I want him to come on at Bumhole Lane, wink at the Blunts fans and 2 foot O'Hare.

 

[Evo1883]

Using Gyokeres as a benchmark for Simms’ performance levels strikes me as somewhat unfair.

Why dont we use other 9s in this league then , like Sargent for example ?

Compare him to 9s in this division

 

[covcity4life]

I don't think he's physical enough yet

He wouldn't be able to hold it up like Simms but he would perhaps pressure more and get in behind his man more

 

[SBT]

Why dont we use other 9s in this league then , like Sargent for example ?

Compare him to 9s in this division

‘Ellis Simms isn’t as good as European football’s most coveted and prolific striker OR the Championship’s most in-form striker’ - useless fucking donkey.

 

[covcity4life]

Why dont we use other 9s in this league then , like Sargent for example ?

Compare him to 9s in this division

For me he's holding up ball better. Being big more physical and scored a nice goal recently

But I want him terrorising defenders. Winning most headers. Running with ball at his feet. Barging defenders off ball even if giving away fouls etc

He's using maybe 70 percent of his physical attributes right now

 

[Evo1883]

‘Ellis Simms isn’t as good as European football’s most coveted and prolific striker OR the Championship’s most in-form striker’ - useless fucking donkey.

Hes scored the same amount of goals as torp who has played less games and plays in midfield

 

[Evo1883]

He's doing well and some games better than others

Still has a lot more to offer us though imo

Crazy that you've said he still has more ro offer and they agree .. weird forum

 

[SBT]

Hes scored the same amount of goals as torp who has played less games and plays in midfield

So are we comparing him to other number 9s or not?

 

[Evo1883]

For me he's holding up ball better. Being big more physical and scored a nice goal recently

But I want him terrorising defenders. Winning most headers. Running with ball at his feet. Barging defenders off ball even if giving away fouls etc

He's using maybe 70 percent of his physical attributes right now

Absolutely 100% agree , he doesn't use his attributes ANYWHERE NEAR enough and we need more from him .

I've been saying this for weeks

 

[clint van damme]

Haha new phone , but will use it going forward

You spend your spare time googling medical jargon, hence the autocorrect.
No point denying it mate, the cats out the bag

 

[Evo1883]

So are we comparing him to other number 9s or not?

Point is hes not performing as well as many number 9s in this league is he

 

[fatso]

Well il tell you what , next time we win there should be zero player discussion

Moody tart

 

[Evo1883]

You spend your spare time googling medical jargon, hence the autocorrect.
No point denying it mate, the cats out the bag

Ffs

 

[Bad Boy]

The Yakubu of SBT?

Absolutely

 

[covcity4life]

Absolutely 100% agree , he doesn't use his attributes ANYWHERE NEAR enough and we need more from him .

I've been saying this for weeks

Best example is Lukaku

Look at him under others managers and then under conte. Under the later he's an absolute phenomenon of physicality

Hopefully lampard is on at Simms to show more every week

 

[clint van damme]

I'm in the middle on this, I do think Simms could be better but its a team game and there's a reason our midfielders are finding so much room in the box. Is he simply doing what's asked of him?
Again, not saying he's been great but he's been playing his part in this incredible run.
Wright has different attributes, if Lampard sees him more as a CF it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Yeah, think the truth lies somewhere in between the two arguments being made.

 

[TomRad85]

Yeah, think the truth lies somewhere in between the two arguments being made.

As is often the case.

 

[clint van damme]

Ffs

I thought it was funny. Oh well, back to drawing board.

 

[SBT]

Point is hes not performing as well as many number 9s in this league is he

Well here’s how he stacks up against them:



Not exactly a Gyokeres-style cheat code player for sure. But in terms of the things being asked/expected of him in this lone striker role - winning balls in the air, taking chances and driving forward with the ball - he’s at least above average and in some cases pretty good.

 

[Evo1883]

Last season I made a thread praising the performances of Ellis simms but hes scored 6 goals in his last 39 league appearances for the club since his good spell last season and we've paid good money for him , the simple reality is he has so much more to give us and has underperformed in long periods and some on this forum seems to have a problem with that opinion

 

[Evo1883]

Well here’s how he stacks up against them:

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Not exactly a Gyokeres-style cheat code player for sure. But in terms of the things being asked/expected of him in this lone striker role - winning balls in the air, taking chances and driving forward with the ball - he’s at least above average and in some cases pretty good.

All you're doing here is proving my point , he has more to give