Johnnythespider
Well-Known Member
Looking at the 2 halfs of the draw if we get past Germany there is no excuse forvnot making the final
That's a fair point but we had Shearer just before his declineWe had Keegan in charge
Last 16: Germany
Quarter-final : Sweden / Ukraine
Semi-final: Netherlands/Denmark/Wales/Czech Republic
Think we'll get to the final if we beat Germany. Whether we're good enough to beat Germany is another matter though.
Definitely, but a win against someone like Germany is exactly what both the fans and the players need. I think 60k in Wembley would give us a slight advantage in the semis should we get there.A semi against Holland will also be a tricky game
I just can't, if you are happy with the direction we are going then fair enough ...that's your opinion and I disagree .
If you want to keep Southgate if we fail , then that's fine ..
There are many of us who won't want to
Would losing to Germany in the Round of 16 be apocalyptic? Not really.
I’m advocating patience. If we see of Germany, and beat the winner of Ukraine/Sweden*, we would be in with a v good chance of another semi final.
Would you U-turn on your previous opinions on Southgate?
*Interesting that we were quick to discredit beating them in the WC. They’ve topped their group in their last 2 major tournaments containing Spain and Germany.
If we lose to Germany he needs to go quite franklyWould losing to Germany in the Round of 16 be apocalyptic? Not really.
I’m advocating patience. If we see of Germany, and beat the winner of Ukraine/Sweden*, we would be in with a v good chance of another semi final.
Would you U-turn on your previous opinions on Southgate?
*Interesting that we were quick to discredit beating them in the WC. They’ve topped their group in their last 2 major tournaments containing Spain and Germany.
If we lose to Germany he needs to go quite frankly
No it wouldn’t be apocalyptic, however I do think that bearing in mind we’re playing a team leagues above the ones we played in the group stages, the time has come to cut loose & show what we can do.
If we lose but put up a great performance, just a case of the better team won, that’s ok. But if we go out with a whimper I’d fear for the kind of backlash Southgate is going to get from people
Just as we beat Columbia on penalties to break the curse, beating Germany would give us a huge psychological boost for years to come.
We’re stronger defensively and I genuinely believe we can beat Germany. I just don’t think it’s a sackable offence, frankly.
The right backs are to make sure we are ok at left back as he knows he can’t trust shawAnyway lads, this is the reason for all the right backs. Play them together to try and mark Gosens.
There won't be many better chances to beat this German side, they almost look like they need a pummelling to cast off some of the dead wood along with Low who is well past his sell by date.
There won't be many better chances to beat this German side, they almost look like they need a pummelling to cast off some of the dead wood along with Low who is well past his sell by date.
weirdoThe right backs are to make sure we are ok at left back as he knows he can’t trust shaw
Agreed. I would absolutely love it if we humiliated Germany in the way they humiliated us in 2010.
I believe we would’ve beaten them in 2018 had we played them - but that’s conjecture.
They’ve conceded 5 goals in the group stages, so we need to exploit that shaky defence.
Yes, I am invoking Keegan here!
There won't be many better chances to beat this German side, they almost look like they need a pummelling to cast off some of the dead wood along with Low who is well past his sell by date.
I’ll ask againweirdo
I’ll ask again
How much do you wanna bet trippier starts over shaw Tuesday ?
Take 1966 out of the equation and we have beaten the following teams in knockout tournament football:
Belgium (after extra time)
Cameroon (after extra time)
Denmark
Ecuador
Sweden
Columbia (penalties)
Paraguay
Spain (penalties)
We’ve lost to:
Uruguay
Brazil twice
Germany three times
Argentina twice
Portugal twice
Iceland
Croatia
And in 8 tournaments we’ve failed to get out of the group stage. It’s only really the tradition, the Premier League and the level of support for the game that classifies us as a major footballing nation, results wise we’re upper mid-table at best really.
About time we did something about that I reckon
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